' Wrote:Rmorph, I get your point but that what I quoted is the only thing you need to "prove" in order to join, not some kind of special powers or super RP. You and all who are interested to join the nomads need to fly like nomads. Once that is done you are in. Is that so hard?
You said a lot of good things so I will recommend you to join and fly with us.
Here comes the other part: I dont know if you were familiar with the time when "keepers" were open faction. Yes that period was one of the biggest lolz in nomad history in disco. All our members didnt want to go to play because of the lolz.
Examples can be many but I will give you just few to understand why the general idea of making this faction open is totaly wrong:
1. Player "De***" - Nomad battleship in Iota - "Hai guys can I come with you for pew in NY?"
2. Player "X" - nomad morph - "Its hart for me to say english so can U write the recruting test for me plz? I know dont english.:("
3. Player "K'Hara|****" - fake one in NY - "engaging police and navy"
4. Player "***" - FL IFF, Nephthys ship, nomad blasters, Corsair ID. After few lines of RP he said: " Stop talk. Tell me where to get the nomad battleship and stuff"
5. Player "**" - a hunter in sigma-13 who arrived on scanner range - "alien! Engaging"
6. Player "Y" - indie morph, probably a new player but - "***Assisting Nomads***" "***Die***"
7. Player "YX" - in kyushu, watching a nomad gunboat. 1 min later in system chat - "Pirate in sector ..."
and much much more.
My points are:
- Yes there are indi morphs who deserve to be in K'Hara but they dont want to join for unknown reasons.
- Yes there are indie morphs who dont deserve to even have a morph.
- Yes there are a lot of players who are interested in the nomads but:
-- They are doing nothing to help the faction
-- Complaining and whining why the nomad faction is closed cuz that dont allow their 2 pvp friends to make lolducks and gank anyone with minimal RP
When there is a ready faction with lore, members, and low activity then why dont you help it instead of requesting to make it open?
1. He's in Iota, no trouble. K'hara aren't obliged to take him on invasions.
2. You get people who can't speak English well everywhere. What is your point? If he screws up roleplay and is always a pain, you can remove him.
3. Faction tag locks deal with that, and he'll get FR5ed/sanctioned etc.
4. Nerf, potential sanction.
5. I don't understand the problem. All Houses understand the threat.
6. Acceptable, so long as the "***Assisting Nomads***" "***Die***"" is replaced with the presets suggested.
7. Don't understand the problem, aside from the Nomad should be aggressively attacking.
You're making up partially esoteric and isolated circumstances to back up flawed arguments. These aren't arguments against an open faction, these are arguments behind closing the goddamn server; banning these 'lolwuts' and the like. Why should we discriminate?
There are individuals who wish to join but are rejected.
There individuals who don't 'deserve' them, but a) who are you to judge? And b) That's not up to you.
People don't have the opportunity to help the faction.
You seem to think that all we want to do is get the 'over-powered' equipment and go pewpewing, when this simply isn't the case. Morph believes in strong roleplay, and I wish to roleplay it from a non-Nomad side, so take your silly convictions elsewhere.
What do suggest we do? Message them and so 'Activity is low, you need to do something about it.'?
Several have contributed here and they themselves had suggested opening the faction up. Closed factions are doomed.
