' Wrote:I was under the impression that the direction of all factions was determined by their respective official factions already, else why have a thread asking the direction the official factions wanted to take their respective factions in?
Please don't make me pull up my test build screenshots.
No, Official factions play the role that dev team gave them. I, as KNF leader, can't declare peace with Bretonia now in 4.85, or make a treaty with the Blood Dragons to cease fire and attack BAF as one army.
They give us a guide and tell us "Ok, this is what you guys will do, from there develop it as you want without going against this guide".
' Wrote:In relation to player factions controlling the NPC factions future.
Currently Disco runs by a system where there are set updates with set roleplays knotched on them.
IE, Kusari invades Bretonia.
From then till the next update, the players play that roleplay out and develop upon it.
Then the next update comes.
Kusari is at peace with Bretonia.
Players play that roleplay out and develop upon it.
However, currently it is not a faction leaders decision what his faction does but a developer question.
This usually does not cause issues, as the developers are usually aware of the roleplay going on and if it's sensible, are happy to add it into the mod.
However there are times where developers do not find certain factions roleplay sensible and do not add it into the mod and can sometimes add in contradicting lore to the mod.
This results in players finding their roleplay development was useless and for nothing. It also highlights that it is not a players choice how his faction progresses.
Discovery's roleplay development is decided upon by the Devs, Igiss being included there, and not by non-devs.
Devs though, it should be noted, are also players just like you or I.
Most factions have developers in them or developers interested in them.
Some don't and as such, get kicked around a good deal.
It comes down to a small conclusion.
Disco's development is in the hands of the developers, not non-developers.
If you want a change to this scenario, make a thread about it.
That's exactly how it is.
' Wrote:I'm still reading the thread and I dunno if this has been addressed yet or not, but you're saying, Zelot, that since the Hellfire Legion wants to determine what they do and what sort of faction they are, instead of leaving it up to a totally disinterested party who probably doesn't care about them at all in the greater scheme of things, they don't get to be included at all?
So the Colonial Remnant shouldn't be included in any storyline, ever, at all, because they want to decide how their faction acts towards other factions instead of letting the devs decide everything, when the devs have no reason to care about them at all.
THIS MAKES PERFECT SENSE, TOTALLY.
Oy! Be nice to Anne!
Basically this.
So factions don't decide what those factions do because the devs think "no that's stupid we shouldn't let them decide how to rp their rp"
So this is what Disco really is. I think we're done here, gents.
The door is right there if you are unhappy, and unless you are in the =CR= leadership, I think they are working with the dev team on how their faction will work.
I wonder how long would it take for people to understand it.
It has been always like that, it will be always like this. Or anyone here thought that the BAF players decided "ok, let the KNF take over stokes" Of course not, they were given a role, and they played it (damn that they have played it...), learn from BAF, that's all I can say to all the people complaining.
Like Schurbli (spelling) said, sometimes you get good stuff, sometimes you get steamrolled.
