' Wrote:I consider here three types of base huging : using the base as a cover before the fight starts, using it as a weapon during the fight proper, and using it as a cover after retreat but not docking. The players who come to fight the BAF are aware of the three problems for long, but I realized that the first type of base huging is an issue to some only yesterday. That's why I said it's new - at least to me -, and that's also what I meant by cultural difference. In your case Elgato you said you don't mind, and in the case of the corsairs who raided Dublin yesterday they actually minded about it. In the end they raged and missile spammed the bretonian forces at the Essex because of that. But until we had a talk with Monte the BAF didn't percieved what went wrong with those particular corsairs, and if not for this talk it would still consider they had been ganked for free that night.
I only quoted this section of the post since what I have to say in response has to do with this mostly. I really appreciate what you're trying to do, Beunt, and I think this will work out well.
To clarify the entire basehugging thing and my views(which I feel can be said to be representative of a good number of people) on it, it's this:
- If you're hugging a base before the fight starts, that's no different than just staying docked. People can't force you to pvp, and as a result, there's absolutely NOTHING wrong with that.
- If you're using the base as a weapon, then yes, that is a problem, since stationary capitals have unlimited energy and cannot be destroyed. It's a bit like putting in the "unlimited ammo/god-mode" hack into a game, only in multiplayer. I seriously suggest anyone who has not tried to attempt to charge a hostile stationary capital ship and attempt to do serious damage to a stationary target without taking incredible damage. You won't succeed.
- If you leave the protection radius of the stationary capital ship, and you engage me in combat, that's fine. But, if I beat you, in the sense that I fight you to the point where you do not want to fight anymore, and you run to the stationary capital...
...Don't sit next to it, DOCK.
Basically, you just lost a pvp engagement. In any other scenario, be it a regular base, I would be chasing you around it shooting at you until you docked. But, with a stationary cap, that's impossible. Instead of docking, you sit outside it, and by doing so, either I must kill you in order to stay in the system, or, if I leave the stationary capital, I must leave the system - which is wrong, since I won the fight.
Of course, other alternatives, such as asking the person if you can stay, are fine and feasible, and should be pursued.
On the topic of the BAF's reputation, again, I will state that it is not my intention to flame or insult anyone in the faction or associated with it. What I'm telling you, if you do not know, or have not seen from some of the responses from the others, is that somehow, the BAF has managed to accrue a very negative reputation that no other House Military faction has.
I'm not 100% certain why this occurred, and can only speculate, which ultimately gets nowhere. But, what remains is the fact that there are quite a few people in your faction who don't seem to be fit for the responsibilities that being in a house military faction entails. Not only that, these people have created an atmosphere that has prevented people from joining. I know people with characters belonging to lawful groups in all the houses except for Bretonia, and these groups of people seem to be fairly consistent.
From my perspective, the only way to completely solve your problems is to very publicly hit the RESET button, or, in other words, kick everyone out of the faction except for the most important, and begin recruitment using different standards. It is very extreme and perhaps unnecessary, and most definitely not my call on whether to do it or not - this is Dieter's faction, and I, having no connection to it whatsoever, don't have a say in it. But, for me, and I am sure, for many others, it would restore a measure of confidence and set the BAF back at point 0.
Again, I am only a human with opinions that can be wrong or correct, depending on your ideas and thoughts. I'm simply offering what I believe, that does not make me right.
So far, I am very glad that we can have this conversation in a serious manner.
Quote:[7:42:05 PM][6:51:36 PM] Igor (Smokey): btw terry
[6:51:48 PM] Terrance Cooper: Ye?
[6:52:00 PM] Igor (Smokey): nothin
[6:52:03 PM] Igor (Smokey): just sayin btw
[6:52:05 PM] Terrance Cooper: <_<
Quote:Johnny_Haas: you shot anti criuse speed rockets!!!
Johnny_Haas: but why????
Johnny_Haas: ??
Johnny_Haas: why you shoot criuse speed rockets?
