Liberty Navy [LN] Feedback Thread

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Irrelevant, and also highly unlikely as the only way Zoner guns get on pirate ships is if the ship wishing to buy them lands on that station. If for some reason this is not the case, the likelihood of being caught is slim, and even then, why would we sacrifice our tech permission on mere principle?

Precisely my point. You wouldn't sacrifice your tech permissions on mere principle. But to stop the Zoners from letting pirates use their guns, you would have to forfeit your tech permissions. As such, the tech permissions you just got were a curse.

Lets wait and see if this one materialises? Ageira are a player faction after all. I did notice your mention of detroit munitions, which is as far as I know primarily a producer of sidearms and civilian weaponry, and more importantly, that one of your characters owns inRP with financial backing from the IND.

The fact that both you and Joe have tried to personally attack me and screamed bias to my post about an issue that, if we didn't RP an angry letter, would have zero impact on Detroit Munitions, seems a little unfair and childish to me. Especially when the very first line I got in response to my first (and politely toned) post was, and I quote, "go suck it" on Skype.

The constant insults and personal attacks I've received from my first and only LN feedback, despite my attempt to go through the matter reasonably and politely, has made me lose much of my respect for this faction's leadership. A leadership I once held a lot of respect for. That you disagree with my viewpoint on the matter is fine, I can deal with that, and didn't expect you to agree with me. All I wished was to state my opinion and get your opinion on the issues I raised. But instead, I got insults and accusations. I'm not personally attacking you, but I am giving you feedback on how you approach people. The reaction I got from this faction's leader to my feedback was worse than I have received from any other faction leader in over 5 years in this community. I was appalled when I looked at Skype and found that kind of response when I tried my best to not be another "feedback troll" that LN routinely suffers.

To answer your accusation then; Unless we do go through with any roleplay such as the letter idea we had concerning the LN's use of these guns and its affect on the company in-RP, this decision will have zero impact on Detroit Munitions. Nothing will actually change. However, I believe in being thorough in roleplay, and if I think my company would get antsy over the LN doing this, I feel it's roleplay I should consider doing, even if it's actually a detriment to the company in-RP. So no, this has nothing to do with my Detroit Munitions roleplay, and everything to do with the 6 points I had in my last post. If I were going to give negative feedback because some action harmed my company, I'd be giving Kusari negative feedback about the blockade, because that actually does have an impact. But I don't, because it's well RP'd and makes sense. I'm not going to waste time bashing a faction to get my way on an internet game. I play it for fun, I roleplay what I roleplay for fun and my own enjoyment.

As for why I mentioned that as a point in the first place, it was discussed in the Ageira chat. Again, as I said earlier, we do not know if either Ageira or Detroit Munitions will even go through with that RP, it was an idea simply. Also, it is a common misconception that Detroit Munitions does side arms and civilian weapons only. I can pass along infocards if you want, I've got all DM-related ones on a spreadsheet. DM partnered with Ageira, Ageira designs the Vengeance and Magma Hammers, then Detroit Munitions builds them. Then this is sold to the LN, DM using the partnership with Ageira to have access to that contract. Officially the Vengeance/Magma Hammer contract is between LN and Ageira, but DM is the actual builder and distributer. Again, I can send you these infocards if you wish.

I think the link at the top of my post may help to alleviate this. Of course, I can't force people to read it. Plus, pirates don't even need to RP to get these weapons, given their purple cell on the tech chart.

As I said, even if there was RP and LN had reason, a lot of people will still see it as shady roleplay, especially the people who don't read faction feedback threads. If people were reasonable, this wouldn't be an issue. But unfortunately, many are not.

And yes, I am aware of the cell on the chart allowing pirates free reign of Zoner guns.. It's not something I agree with, as it forces it on Zoner politics and they have no way to stop it even if they wanted to. It's something I'd be interested in seeing changed to white.

However, my issue is with LN getting its own access to these weapons, as it seems (in my opinion) to be detrimental in the long-term.

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