' Wrote:a battleship is a platform for warfare... but also a symbol. a faction producing it doesn t only want to add some supportive firepower....
... a faction with a battleship wants to make a point... and the point is "look what we can do! - this is ours - and you can see it on every detail that it is OURS!" - it is a status symbol ( literally )
maybe it is just the narrowminded me... but i cannot see hessians to be proud of something that other factions associate with the older Mako produced in o-56
At least two RHA members in this thread have each said they liked it, the second in-command added me on Skype to tell me that he liked it. So the question is, who is a better judge of what the Hessians would be proud of? The Red Hessians themselves or the rest of the population, who are not a part of the former?
Anyway, FreeLancer is packed full of instances where their battleship and even their entire capital ship line looks almost nothing like their fighters, Liberty, for instance. The Fighters look similar to each other but they share almost no resemblance to the cruiser or dreadnought, both of which share almost no features with each other besides windows, which are a very common occurrence on capital ships (the Discovery Liberty gunboat isn't included since it's just the cruiser with the front cut off, shrunken, and modified a little). This trend goes for just about every faction in Sirius, the Kusari snubs share little with their capitals, the fins and stupid Japanese fans being about the only thing. Same goes for Rheinland. So based off this train of thought, perhaps I've followed this well, perhaps not, but I think the RHA should be the ones to judge, not their opposition or people who've never seen a RHA ship up close, or flown one at all.
I will, I guess, try to make it be a bit more in-line with the Snubs (which I already feel I achieved), which are generally sleaker Rheinland fighters. The hump in particular I thought was more reminicent of the RM battleship and not the Mako, as the hump has much more in common with the former than the latter. Adding wings, no matter the size, is a big no no, however. Not only have the RHA said they don't want them, they're impractical on a ship this size.
Quote:Lame cop-out excuse. It's just modellers being lazy and building what they want to instead of doing research and keeping with existing designs.
Example is the Rogue/Molly line. Vanilla ships were designed by DA, Greyhound by me, Barghest by AoM, Gunboat and Destroyer by Doom. Does that give us an excuse to make them look completely different from their design principles? No.
Again, completely missing the point. I never said they should look like bigger versions of the Gunboat, that's closed minded thinking. I just said they should keep the same design principles given by the Gunboat. After all, AoM is the father of the Hessian line.
Actually, the differing of modelers can mean a lot, the battleship by me, the cruiser by Luis, and the rest by AoM were not made in conjunction or is there a clear convention to follow aside from opinions, and we modelers have one too. Each and every modeler will have a different opinion on how something should be made and how unique to the rest they want it to look or not.
On the second point, the Barghest is just an enlarged Vanilla rouge fighter that has few model alterations aside from the tubes added. The Greyhound generally follows the design principles of the LR vanilla fighters to the letter, with a few shape differences. No one said they had to look completely different, and no one said they had to look almost the same, either.
