The Volksfront

[Ivan]

[quote name='Lobster' date='Mar 23 2011, 09:05 PM' post='1359850']
That's one of the problems, they wouldn't have much to shoot PvPwise. and while it isnt a major PvP faction, everyone (olozoners) needs something to shoot to make things fun.. usually..

So far, they would have the Libertonians and Nomads (wilde too) (which a universally hated.) Any other ideas as to what these new avenues would open up?

Perhaps resume some form of piracy?
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VF already shoots LN & Nomads & Wilds. Especially Wilds & Nomads, since VF's allied to the Order.

[quote name='Blodo' date='Mar 23 2011, 09:07 PM' post='1359855']
Not much really. I would rather propose the Bundschuh focus on Sigma-13 more. It's the area where there are no Hessians, and they can try and shoot GMG + all the traders with ore heading to Kusari.

EDIT: In response to the two posts previous to this one: It would need a big shift in Bundschuh RP lore wise. Right now the Bundschuh are pro-democracy, anti-government. Something really drastic (and probably unlikely) would need to happen that would probably need to be incorporated to the mod lore.
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Unfortunately there's no real RP excuse to shoot GMG at the moment. We don't need it, we don't care about it.

Only if VF takes up nationalism approach, offered by Alec - then VF'll go on with revanchism

[quote name='Vrabcek' date='Mar 23 2011, 09:14 PM' post='1359874']
The Idea is good and the Bundschuh faction has potential.

As Jarl stated, what would we do....Thats the problem, becouse all Rheinland unlawfuls are kind of buddies. Only Rheinland enemies I could imagine would be the unioners, who allied some times with the corsairs, who are a big enemy to the bundschuh.

The problem might be also that the Bundschuh are allies with the Red Hessians. that alliance is lore based and Im not sure whether we could break it somehow. There is just one point we dont like about the hessians, its the SCRA. The Volksfront had just one encounter with a SCRA and it didnt end well.

As far for the house trading factions...Im not sure what could we do about this point.

EDIT: wrote it when there were just 3 posts Q.Q
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I can't say VF's really pissy on Sairs...

[quote name='The Major' date='Mar 23 2011, 09:15 PM' post='1359880']
Right now they are, so were they a few hundred years ago, but the orientation of groups change along with their history and more importantly, leadership.

If a more nationalistic radical leader would step up, perhaps with a coup, he could continue with flying around with the Bundschuh name and tech, with a different alignment than which his predecessors followed.
Again, I could compare them to the Farmers Alliance. They are following similar ideas are tolerated by the government, since they are of a centralized, traditionalist / nationalist affiliation too. The Rheinland government is nationalistic too, and it's more likely for them to tolerate nationalist radicalism than anarchist / socialist / communist radicalism which is going on in Rheinland already, expressed by pretty much every single group.

Key change would be the Bundschuh gaining the status of a semi-lawful faction.
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Unfortunately unlike FA, VF isn't sponsored by one big company. And VF is purist faction, unlike FA, which contains a lot of corrupted elements (that's why it's puppet of Samura).

[quote name='The Major' date='Mar 23 2011, 09:20 PM' post='1359897']
If we take the nationalist radical approach...

[quote name='Primitive' date='Mar 23 2011, 09:31 PM' post='1359932']
I'll be honest, if you do this you'll destroy last "freedom fighting" faction that actually looks like one.

VF has problem cause no one plays, same as half of other factions, if 10 pvp whores were in VF they would get more members. So all this ideas aren't going anywhere, leave it as it is and join if you like what they represent.
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Unfortunately majority of "pvpwhores" need OP or at least decent guns, otherwise pvp fails. We don't really have anything efficient on hand (Protectors, Reapers, Death Hands, Lugers, Destroyers, Natters). Yes, we have Natters and Hessian ships, but then we're nothing but bunch of other Hessians.