Harvester

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--"A time before that saw two Talarcas and a "binary" Corsair Huntress squatting by Fort Bush telling a lone LSF in a fighter where he could put his demands that they vacate the area. That aint all that Junky either."--

I'm replying to this since "Binary" are characters controlled by me and a very close friend of mine. The beings known as Binary have an Order ID, not Junker, and they were in NY on a mission that had nothing to do with the Harvesters, but being allies we will protect them if they need us and we sometimes travel together. Binary were not "squatting" we stopped to see if the Harvesters needed any help as we passed through NY on our way to Kepler to fix a TAG issue that someone would have eventually griped about. We were even RPing it as "getting back at the xeno's for what they did to us early in our lives". We avoided heavily populated space for that very reason, but figured it would need to be done sometime and i was sick of seeing my counterpart with a XENO TAG, hopefully you can understand this.

Also the Huntresses they fly are not Corsair in my opinion, it is sold on a Zoner base, Gammu, where Binary have allways called "home". Secondly the infocard says it's a ship of "Alien" design, just as the Binary are. The Huntress is also SOLID BLACK and so it would seem to be more associated with The Order, as Binary are. Putting the label of "Corsair Cruiser" on the Huntress just because Corsairs are mentioned in the infocard is a rather specific view.

Every ship harvesters use states in its infocard that it has "Alien" origins. Or it has no specific faction affiliation tied to it. The assumption that we choose our ships based on stats is just that, an assumption. Do you really think that flying the Huntress through an asteroid field is FUN? Obviously you havent tried it yet. Infact the exact opposite is true, we've tried to choose ships that are weaker or have a disadvantage compared to the better ones to make it more of a challenge and to fit rp. The only thing i even partially agree on is that we have too many cap's, and this is being worked on. When you saw the Harveys in NY and assumed they were "squatting" they were accually on a mission to learn about the liberty battlecruiser and get the designs. Which they did, and as far as i know they havent even built one yet.

The thing everyone should understand by now is that there isn't an ID that supports Harvester/Machine RP. The Junker ID was chosen by Scornstar because it is the one ID that does fit thier style of RP better than any other. Yet another assumption, they/we are not a "Junker" faction. As i wrote above, the Junker ID fits the best to thier RP, better than any other ID, and im fairly sure no matter what ID Scorn decided was best, people would have had a problem with it.

Question: What ID would you propose for Keepers or Phantoms to use if they didn't have a Specific ID?

Harvesters and machines in general have the same problem they would if the nomad, keeper, or phantom id didnt exsist. Not one single ID fits thier RP and so they must adapt to one that fits as best as possible. For machines in general this is JUNKER as they require JUNK to repair themselves and such, that fits rp right? So without an ID and faction specific to harvesters/machines this will be unavoidable. Pirate ID doesnt allow for cruisers, and a Military ID suggests a lawfull demeanor, Merc ID doesnt fit because some machines like to trade, none of which fit RP as they are all HUMAN ID's. So it seems that people will say they are ooRP no matter what ID they use. Then if they switch ID's to make someone happy they would be doing yet another thing you gripe about, being shifty. Which they are not.

Machine diplomacy is derived from what the machines encounter in-game. Machines wouldnt really care about "human" diplomacy on a broader scale. Those that are allied or friendly are that way because thats how it has happened in-game, in-rp. The same goes for hostile or unfriendly factions. Those we havent dealt with arent on the list as machines wouldnt know of them unless they had met one or heard about one.

Everyone keeps complaining how we dont "consider thier RP" and to me this is hipocritical in the sense that by trying to become a part of this community it seems that "some" of you arent considering OUR RP. So instead of griping about how we are trampling your rp, try suggesting ways our rp will work better for everyone, including you.