BHG / Core Split

[Agmen of Eladesor]

Nope the whole reason why there isn't a BHG Guard ID, but rather BHG Core ID is that in 4.84 there were too many heavy BHG capships in the house systems. Pirates as well as most other people didn't enjoy BHG Battlecruisers/Battleships camping Ouray/Buffalo/Mactan etc and BHG faction players argued that BHG caps are for fighting with Order/Nomads/Corsairs/OCs,

So BHG Guard ID was named BHG Core ID and forbidden to operate in house systems.

Then some time ago after 4.85 was released some parts of BHG faction started to call themselves "Core" and with time decided that they aren't really part of BHG after all.

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From my corner when using current BHG Core ID (which isn't faction owned) I'm part of BHG, but the part that doesn't hunt petty criminals in house systems but rather the one that fights Order/Nomads.

I.e if BHG Core faction ID starts to deviate from BHG roleplay they should get own ID and BHG get own guard ID.

Erm, not exactly, or at least I don't think I'm reading it the way you may intend.

The history of why the BHG Core ID got nerfed goes back to the days of the DW, when they would come into house space and sit around. Of course, pirates complained about this, because this game is tilted towards unlawful players. Anyway - also in 4.84 (not in 4.85 yet), Tic had a group that operated in the Omicrons. Since the S/D had grown to the point where some of us wanted something a bit larger than a gunship, the factions (S/D and Core) merged.

We've written consistent RP on how and why that happened, including the mysterious AP Manufacturing, and we've been consistent with the RP of the factions SINCE that time, as well. And it's as we previously stated, the Core was out there to get Nomad tech so that AP could then corner the market, because basically we're a bunch of greedy bastards that are NOT necessarily nice guys. (This stuff has been on the forums now since the middle of 2009, so it's been almost two years now - and some of the background has been around on the forums since July of 2008, nearly THREE years. So please don't act surprised about any of this.)

Again, I'll reference this post, from last April, where we attempted to answer questions about the way the faction(s) were operating.

Here's my reasoning on WHY I felt that the bounty hunter ID is generic, as well. The DW was an official faction at the same time that the S/D was - so we HAVE had two official bounty hunter factions on the server at the same time. That was also why we were able to quickly purchase Omega-56 when they bailed out - we were already official.

You're right in one respect - we feel like the Core should have their own, seperate ID, and with the removal of Guard ID's in 4.86, this is the perfect time to have that happen. That's one reason why we're doing the split now, so that having the second ID can happen, and they can go off and be official on their own.

(Also, of course, is the minor rule that no one person can actually lead more than one official faction at a time - which means that I would need to give up one or the other, should the second ID come out, because then I'd be running two factions. I've also explained in Skype to those people that need to know just why I need to step down for a while - RL > gaming, every time.)

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