Current Order Status

[Tommeh]

No, I dont like the current status. We're being ganked and have no one to call for helpl.

No, its not the Secondary's fault. I've been secondary since SwissScorch. I've seen good Indies. Iron Legion, TOP, TCG. The new Wedjat. Its not our fault.

Not completely fault but greatly.
I don't count Iron Legion, TOP, even TCG as normal indies, why?Cause they have understandments of RP and need to speak english here.
There has been few issues in past with TCG, partly due to some grudges partly due to disagreements in RP.
Yes back then my opinion was that they are harming Order RP, that changed in some way, they changed in certain way, everyone changed.

Problem are those who don't speak english and don't know what is RP. How can Order| control those?
You can not do anything if he is ganking, if he is attacking fighters with 3123 caps, he is doing cannon rp, no report can pass through. If they break server rules, and ignore my attempts to warn them about breaking rules, people that get hurt by their rule breaking are lazy to fill a report, what is left to us to then

I chose poor organization. But thats not my only reason. More of a combo of a few. But this one was the best blanket.

Reason:

I've seen Order| think they are better. Iv seen lolwuts over and over.

I've been Order since SwissScorch. Lost FL, came back under Ophi's first stint.

The Order's highpoint was when our relations with SCRA, NLH, BD, and VF were strong.

Don't judge Order's status by it's diplomacy please, it has nothing to do with it.
While we were in good relations with SCRA, BD hated us, for some time NLH aswell during SCRA's attacks on them.
Hellfire hated us too due buddy relations with Coalition. During good relations with NLH, again BD hated us.

Now...

SCRA and NLH hate us, VF is nearly dead, BD is weakly allied, we just started with the HF.

Poor organization, poor leadership.

I want the Order to be what it was when Ophi was Rand Seith. Minus Kelt.

Why was there the SCCRA backstab?

I'll qoute someone from ingame.

"Thier holding onto a crumbling empire"

Something to that effect.

As explained above alliance with SCRA was closing more doors then opening, it was not worth it.
NLH openly treated Nomads as neutrals and opened fire on Order, what is there to discuss it?
Should be stay buddy buddy only cause their base in bretonia avaliable for us, and ignore main aspects of Order RP.
Alliance with BD is stronger after SCRA one ended.
I want Order to be what it was back then too, guess what? That time has passed.
We can't go back, Ophi was great faction leader, better then anyone else so far in Order|.
But he is gone, he couldn't take all the crap related with disco, and he left, leftovers of that leadership are still struggling around. We our best, if we are so poor, fine. Who thinks it can do better, is quite welcome to take over.

Leadership needs an overhaul, alliances need to be formed. We wont survive in Omicron Mu without any alliances. The Order needs to be overhauled from its roots, from the OHC down to the Ensigna.

Current Order diplomacy is exactly as it should be, if we have 343534 allies at the time when Nomads are suppose to strike Minor, then we will get backup and pwn them and keep Minor.
When (if) 4.86 arrives, then we will think about new alliances, Order position in Omicrons will change.
A lot's of things concerning whole Sirius will change hopefully, we won't form INRP alliances for future while INRP we can't know what will happen.

I say this as a prominent Indie and an Order| Corporal.

Our status: FUBAR.

This needs to be fixed.

And for the record, not by me. Im not the right guy.

I have in mind two or three people who can hopefully turn it around. Them in positions to do anything?

Not yet.

Thats my say.

Tommeh and Anon also make good points.

So does sadtranslation.

Our roleplay,is screwed atm. Again overhaul

Nothing else really...

-Jeremy

You make it sound so easy Jeremy.
Order RP is not screwed, just been stagnant for to long.
Same old fights and battles, Minor/Delta.
If we go out of Omicrons then it's our fault again for not control indies, or bullying them around when even we spend minimum of time in there.

People are overreacting, no one will sacrifice so much time to overhaul entire faction, especially with large pleyerbase such as Order one.
Everyone would want better Leadership, we can't get better one, deal with it or don't play Order.

@Zahas, and what are you gonna do about it?
Order| made a mistake, you gonna flame on forums and achieve nothing like you did now, or PM faction Leader with proof so it doesn't repeat again? Huh....

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