Current Order Status

[The.Wizard]

If you think someone didnt do something that they should have done... why dont you just go ahead and... you know... do it?
You dont have to be Order leader to organize good RP and help other players enojy RP more.

Cause you'll end up with FR-5 if one of the leaders doesn't like you very much...

Two years in Order now...i seen many things,few leaders come and go...i do have some very interesting story's to tell...problem is-nobody is listening.
When i realized that i knew that i'll never be member of the Primary fleet...never really wanted to kiss anybody's behind...specially not "16 year old Admirals behind"...it's funny how all my Order friends have that same attitude...
Btw,are you aware that one of the "Rear admirals" joined Order just 6 month ago???...talking about skype leadership...
This is not first debate on this subject-i remember year and a half ago when Kelt was leader-same subject,same themes,same bad things spoken about "indies" by Order leaders...
Funny how most of those "indies" doing very well as "indies" in other faction,only in Order they are intolerable...?
Maybe they are like that cause Primary members are trying to make them play outside Order RP canon?...and while doing that enforcing some really big ego issues...
..."don't do that,don't do this,don't go to Alaska,never go to NY,do not engage before "we" tell you to,disengage immediately when we tell you otherwise we'll just shoot you ourselves"?

It's not true that Order can't have better leadership,truth is that same small group of people are choosing leaders between themselves using the same old criteria...there is no real change,only the names are changed.
We-TCG| have become independent from Order| and able to play Order as we think it should be played...but it costed us 2FR-5 and whole lota crap to acomplish that...
In the last few month i saw in Minor same complains from Secondary fleet like it was year and a half ago...same old story...new leadership-same problems...
Please don't get me wrong on this-i have all respect for organizing and leading faction-group of players...we were doing it from screach in TCG|(and in some other groups we play) and i know what it's like specially with such large number of players,but 2-3-4 people just can't decide everything for everybody and involve some very nasty ego-problems in that and metagaming and power-gaming and other crap...
One does not educate people by telling them what to, leader must be example for everybody.All good leaders care about opinion of the people they lead.
Order is one of the few factions who has really open RP,it allows you to do pretty much anything(within RP canon),there is no need to be restricted like it is now,no need to be "the most boring "faction in Disco.
I think that's the main reason why is so many sub-groups in Order and why Indies are not happy with their status and leadership....btw,we never had any problems with indies-if you talk to them with respect they listen and obey,accept advices...
Good luck with this pool and to Order in general.

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