Current Order Status

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I thought about posting without reading anything at all. But what I realized from reading this thread is:
1. Jeremy Hunter being ignorant
2. Personal grudges supporting the number of nonconstructive posts.

With that said, the only posts to consider are right on the first two pages. However, I decided to quote some posts.

Note: I have no grudge against The Order/Order|. You make it a grudge. I play for fun, not to pi** other people off or hating. You -think- I have a grudge because you lose against me and not against NPCs in combat. I beat you, I have a grudge, right.

You told me otherwise, Dodge.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that, I'm seeing poor Roleplay from all sides of the Order. Last I checked, it was The Orders job to protect Humanity from The Nomads, not sit at Omicron Minor/Toledo.

That's what we were always trying to avoid. But do not forget, it as well needs time for us to get where the fight is taking place. And by the time we come, all we see is debris. You are right, though.

I was pretty much sure that Rod, Mario and Golanski - I think I annoyed all of them with that filthy scenario - count as a sufficent number of active members that knew about my will to organise something with them. Though, opportunities are lost now. Once again, they are lost by mutual agreement, so that's not a tragedy. But the out of roleplay reasons for that are somehow important too.

Let's face it: you wanted to annoy us, and so we were deliberately annoyed. Then you blame us for having poor leadership? Apparently, you still don't care about Order at all. You just dropped by here and put some turgid remarks just to keep your image intact.

Cause you'll end up with FR-5 if one of the leaders doesn't like you very much...
It's not true that Order can't have better leadership,truth is that same small group of people are choosing leaders between themselves using the same old criteria...there is no real change,only the names are changed.
We-TCG| have become independent from Order| and able to play Order as we think it should be played...but it costed us 2FR-5 and whole lota crap to acomplish that...
In the last few month i saw in Minor same complains from Secondary fleet like it was year and a half ago...same old story...new leadership-same problems...
Please don't get me wrong on this-i have all respect for organizing and leading faction-group of players...we were doing it from screach in TCG|(and in some other groups we play) and i know what it's like specially with such large number of players,but 2-3-4 people just can't decide everything for everybody and involve some very nasty ego-problems in that and metagaming and power-gaming and other crap...
One does not educate people by telling them what to, leader must be example for everybody.All good leaders care about opinion of the people they lead.
Order is one of the few factions who has really open RP,it allows you to do pretty much anything(within RP canon),there is no need to be restricted like it is now,no need to be "the most boring "faction in Disco.
I think that's the main reason why is so many sub-groups in Order and why Indies are not happy with their status and leadership....btw,we never had any problems with indies-if you talk to them with respect they listen and obey,accept advices...
Good luck with this pool and to Order in general.

Despite your grudge and hatred towards Order|, you indeed brought up some good points and sayings here. I'll just explain something: back when Kelt led Order|, not even I got in easily. I had problems with server rules and understanding of RP. Fair enough. And, unsurprisingly, the reason why you haven't got in was quite the same. I witnessed it all. You would've been quite a good member if you showed just a better bit of understanding... But you didn't.
Regarding 'ass-lickery', here, I'm afraid, you're wrong. Nobody licks no-one's ass. I was as well to decide what and who gets into HC (I got into HC just a month or two before Golanski and Mario). I saw these two as ones having good leadership potential, and just decent enough to be called 'Admiral'. If I had some problems with either of them, it's unlikely they would be in.
Still, I do not understand how bad tensions between us and indies show us in a bad light. I would be grateful if you explained it thoroughly, with all facts mentioned.
It's good you have some sense of decency, Wizard (unlike Waratah, considering his 'verbosity').

Regarding the lack of initiative I noticed - yes, we're trying to settle up this problem. But nothing can be done within a day, so give us some time.

And the last thing I put here: please, please, please supply your rants of Order| players misbehaving with attached evidence. Without it, I'm afraid, your points are moot.