Pirates, terrorists and PvPabuse

[SnakThree]

OP, i would point you to the q-q moar thread, but i cant seem to be bothered to look for it. grow a pair and dust off the fact, that you died.

suggesting a lock. 78438 threads like this pop out per year. they all end up the same way.

Em. Could you please proove the fact that I died? Instead of judgung instantly, you should take time to ask what happened, before putting accusations that it is QQ thread after "death". I was only the spectator.

If pirates would not be allowed to engage lawfuls, how would they pirate?

"Hello, could you stop your ship so I can rob you?"

"No cuz you cant shoot me!"

Yes, that is an extremely well thought out plan.

I hold lawfuls as law enforces, not corporations an their traders.

***About Pirates:

Pirates (Generic IDs) are free to expound upon their character and what his choices in life are. Some may be crazy and attack lawfuls. And what do you mean they don't attack lawfuls... what about THIS, and THIS, and THIS, and THIS, and THIS, and THIS.
POINT IS: Pirates DO attack lawfuls.... And I could find TONS more but I think my point is proven.

***About terrorists only being able to attack lawfuls and not civilians.... Thats just.... Well it ain't a terrorist then.

911 = Terrorists vs CIVILIANS
Car Bombs in UK = Terrorists vs CIVILIANS

And there are tons more as well but I haven't the time...
/defence of a good cause in which I partake only in the game world;)

Cheers

But seriously.... READ THIS

Show me a group of pirates standing against whole fleet of some Military. If you do, they are not pirates then, another terrorists.

I can't believe I missed this one. How many a week do you do? Hard to keep up...



It just so happens to be a video game, problem with Disco is some people take it too seriously.

It so happens that few care about the game.

saw the first post...saw the word 'dickhead' in the first post...skipped ahead to the current page. Saw a couple of whaabulances.

This begs the question: what value does this thread hold & why should it live?

Well. Yeah lock away the discussion. That's valueable too? Only that word did I find to express my opinion on what pirate did. Sorry, my English swearword dictionary is very limited.

I must say fellas, Rorry demands all the cargo when he knows he can sell it to a junker or have a friend pick it up just down the lane. I've demanded full cost/profit amount to do this before (aka 35 mil from a 5k ore hauler). And unless he's a dedicated RPer who's char is really afraid to die... then i'll have to kill him. then go make the 35 mil profit he left me.

Heres what I see, you guys get mad oorp that you can't make money because Pirates inRP are demanding it all. But inRP what pirate is gona make 'fair' demands.

Looky this:
A pirate finds a barge thats trading. inRP, if i was the pirate. I'd think "oh look a rich guy" and not just charge him for what his cargo will make him on that run alone. Heck if I was a pirate i'd threaten to kill him unless he gave me half his fortune....

BUT.... do I do this? Nope, and I don't think any other pirates do either (aka 500mil or die) Even if we charge over what your profit margin is, its completely normal inRP to do so, pirates are pirates mates....

And even if you do meet a couple of pirates who charge to much, you still end up making money. I sure did, from basic, normal ol' trading. Got my first BS and Desi that way... Its quite easy and this whole thing needs to 'fixing' in my opinion...

Cheers

There is difference between demanding whole cargo, as it bring a lot of profit, and pirating a freighter, snubcarft or etc. Or even pirating when ship is next to a station, and shoot it right after demand till it is destroyed.

Why would a pirate leave you alive? Be thankful they must demand something first = P

I made most of my money in 4.85 with many many embargos, with many many pirates, and not mining at all. And I was capable of buying whatever ship I wanted. And I'm not a super trader who escapes from every pirate, I've been pirated, for all my cargo, for 2 mil, for 500k, for many things. Even simply destroyed for belonging to a coorporation from a house you hate. And still, made more money that I needed.

And like me, anyone can make enough money to buy whatever they want.

I do understand that the lack of participation from the pirate's side, can be annoying sometimes. It's not just with the pirates, it's everywhere, there's always people who don't get too deep with their chars, or don't want, or something always happens that makes people play simply their chars.

Complaining that it's just the pirates who do that, makes me think that this is more related that you were succesfully killed/pirated, it's not just you, many people complain about the same, but I never saw a thread with the title "Traders don't RP with me, let's put more restrictions to their IDs". And when people see threads like this, they die for posting a "get over it". It happens, you wanna complain? Complain, it's good to vent things from time to time. But, there's no solution to change people's actitude, no matter what rules you add, or how hard you control them.

@Vogel: I've pirated for all the cargo more than once, I've forced people to drop all the cargo on my KNF more than once. I didn't do it because I got beated up in school, I was the bully in school! I pirated all the cargo because it made sense at that point, depending on the cargo, on my faction, on the trader's faction. Of course pirates target ships that they can beat, it's the whole point of being a pirate, you will not pirate a battleship or cruiser (although, I've seen it). One of the major problems here is that many people think other players want to be jerks and screw your fun, and no matter what the other player does, it will be always to screw your fun. Sometimes, they are jerks, but manytimes, people pre-judge the other player, and can't see beyond their own view of what's good role play, or how things should be played.

For more that this annoys you, this is a game, with many people playing it, things will not always come out the way we want, best way to deal with it is, chilling, laughing, and respawning.

You made money? That's the point! Today, most of pirates are not even pirating and only fights the law enforcers. They have low chance of having income. So thus, they are not pirates, and terrorists imho.


EDIT: 10 minutes after waking up. Might be a bit of dizzy. But I hope you'll be able to rad what I wrote.

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