White Cells and Faction Permissions

[Hexx]

Hexx, you don't seem to be understanding what you're saying. You're advocating a powerful and player-driven iRP environment, yet you're neutering any iRP authority or power someone might be able to get. As player factions, these groups are essentially the head-honchos of their NPC counterparts. They call the shots and can act upon their influence if they so wish. The Corsairs, for the moment, have effectively closed their borders because of a completely iRP interior incident, which is something I would expect from most real world governments today. I'm sure the white cell lockdown won't last forever (though, if it did, I would have to agree that the action is abusive... ish) as no country closes their borders for long.

Not exactly. I'm only saying that complete lockdowns are abusive. Just because a group of players say that no one can have their stuff shouldn't mean that's all okey dokey. Some players have a god mode cheat? I've gotta find that code.

And if the lockdown is temporary, perhaps that's not too bad. However, as can be determined by what Zelot and Bindo have said, they don't seem to savvy to ever change things.

Just let it go for a while. Complain about it in a week, but not here; to an admin. The only thing that's happening here is mindless arguing. I'm not going to call it debate because I think that for an argument to qualify as a debate all sides have to be somewhat openminded, or at the very least open to listening to each other's points. As it stands right now it's Hexx against the world, everyone's arguments are old, reused, and stagnant, and no one's budging on their opinion. Pointless discussion that will soon enough decay into a flamewar.

EDIT... ish: Gah, your RP ninja'd me. Well, to quickly shoot that down, it doesn't matter. What you seem to have a hard time grasping is that a government may or may not give weapons to a citizen. It is their choice, completely, and it is entirely possible and realistic that, for a while after an internal incident, the government's weapons would be for their military/citizens only. It's iRP, just like pirating, and for someone to say "if you don't like it, too bad", is completely legitimate. You've gotten the RP reasoning (as well as plenty of ooRP in this thread) for the ban on weapons, yet you're still crying abuse. PM an admin, and stop.

EDIT 2: Good RP is fine and dandy. No one's dissing the quality of your story. Unfortunately it's not about how well written or acted or passionate your RP is; if a gov't doesn't want to give you tech because you're not a citizen then they have the right.

Meh, I know. Debate is a volatile thing on this forum. Always has been. But often after the flamewar, results have come into effect.

The problem is that a few players playing god over all other players isn't a good thing. My character was an indy. Her family was also influential, and after her traumatic experience, she was still forced into going down the military career path to prominence. A pile of exhausted councilors and pychiatrists later, she was still a pain in the ass.

Intent on getting out of there, sick of the constant pushing, she left. On the most readily available craft at her disposal: a training vessel from the academy. Was it technically hers? No, and while the academy wasn't happy about it, it wasn't the end of the world, and her family smoothed out the issues.

I don't care whether or not you like, or think that RP is perfect. It's not ooRP, and it's valid.

They aren't going to say, "Oh, we aren't giving Corsair tech to non Corsairs anymore. Period. Well maybe if you have a good reason." If they said that, everyone would claim they have a good reason.

Go role play with the Corsair factions. Build up a name for yourself among the Corsairs. Make yourself invaluable to them. Prove your worth. Perhaps once you've shown the Elders you would make a damn fine Corsair if it wasn't for your place of birth, they'll let you fly a Titan.

Do note when I say you in the above statement, I don't mean you as a player. I mean you as in your character.

This is you saying how you believe it is. Judging from Zelot and Bindo, though, it seems there is no leeway for exceptions.

I can make reasonable story for 15 different factions to grant me their toys. But my story doesn't have to appeal to them. That is the thing.

I can make perfect logical story about a lot of things, but month later we would have the most unique and bizarre galaxy that ever existed. Suddenly all the people meeting each other in space would be darn unique and special.

You're suggesting that such an obviously elaborate and drastic scenario would just be approved? Your example is stretching.

There's balance, and a limit, to everything.

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It's Hexx against the world.

Hexx won.