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Standardize Weaponry
Offline Daedric
06-19-2011, 12:53 AM, (This post was last modified: 06-19-2011, 12:54 AM by Daedric.)
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' Wrote:Diversity is defined on dictionary.reference.com as
If every gun, regardless of faction, has the same stats, so that a 4.0 IMG Vamp is equivalent to a 4.0 Lane Hacker Hellflurry, just for the sake of comparison, what that means is that they are the same gun with a reskin and a different effect. (I understand you also intend to have the various guns replicated to equal-stat versions with different refire rates, so that there will also be a 2.0 Vamp and a 2.0 Hellflurry, so to speak)

This means that, in the context of the Freelancer universe, you'll be given the choice of Gun A, with a 2.0 refire rate, Gun B, with a 4.0 refire rate, etc., and you get the choice of what color the gun is. In other words, difference is removed, because every gun will be the same. There will be no unlikeness that isn't either the difference between Gun A and Gun B, or a different color pattern.

In other words, you'd have Vampire Fast, Vampire Slower, Vampire Slow and Vampire Slowest, because a gun's identity is in how it works, its efficacy, its character, not just in the color of its projectile effects.

What this means is, in making all guns have the same stats, while it would reduce the tendency for peeveepee-horses to collect the best guns, it would reduce the diversity of guns considerably, because the diversity of guns would be limited to my Vampire Fast Blue versus your Vampire Slow Red, so to speak. They different colors, all still Vampires, with equivalent stats, equivalent DPS, equivalent everything, and that's not diversity.

Note: I know that Vampires will not be a benchmark, but you could replace every instance of Vampire in that post with Magma Hammers or Furies and the argument would hold true. Diversity is about more than just color and name, it's about the character and identity of the gun; some guns should be better, some should be worse, some should be more efficient, some should sacrifice efficiency for punch. It's their stats, not their color, not their names, that really make them different, and when you make their stats the same, then there is no difference between them, and that directly contradicts what diversity is.

TL:DR, standardizing all weaponry so that they're all essentially the same kills diversity.

Do explain how a weapon has character for me. I'd like to hear that.

Currently most factions are limited to one or two weapons already. Some of which are quite useless when compared to others. By standardizing them, you open up more options. The weapons are different, they have different DPS, different maleficent, different refire rate. Only thing that is the same is effect and maybe name.

Right now my diversity is limited to My Vampire. My suggestions means it becomes My Vampire 1 or My Vampire 2. Two different weapons who are indeed different, but share a name and an effect.

I'm not saying bring every weapons DPS up to 2000. I'm saying bring the sub par weapons up to the field and then give us more options than we already have. I'm suggestion a more diverse offering of weapons, not the opposite.

That way, instead of having to seek out another factions weapons for the one you want or one that actually is worth a damn. You can turn to your own faction's weapons.

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Standardize Weaponry - by Daedric - 06-18-2011, 08:02 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Huhuh - 06-18-2011, 08:13 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Daedric - 06-18-2011, 08:21 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Echo 7-7 - 06-18-2011, 08:28 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Huhuh - 06-18-2011, 08:59 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Hielor - 06-18-2011, 09:03 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Daedric - 06-18-2011, 09:11 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Hielor - 06-18-2011, 09:35 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Daedric - 06-18-2011, 10:21 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by chopper - 06-18-2011, 10:47 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by stewcool - 06-18-2011, 10:54 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Hone - 06-18-2011, 11:41 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Ingenious - 06-18-2011, 05:31 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Silver.2 - 06-18-2011, 06:58 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by VoluptaBox - 06-18-2011, 07:03 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Ingenious - 06-18-2011, 07:12 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Enoch - 06-18-2011, 07:21 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Primitive - 06-18-2011, 07:23 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Ivan - 06-18-2011, 07:32 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Pancakes - 06-18-2011, 07:46 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Enoch - 06-18-2011, 07:57 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Pancakes - 06-18-2011, 08:14 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by TheJarl - 06-18-2011, 08:15 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Pancakes - 06-18-2011, 08:22 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by VoluptaBox - 06-18-2011, 08:25 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Slartibartfast - 06-18-2011, 08:28 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Backo - 06-18-2011, 08:29 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Korny - 06-18-2011, 08:30 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Ingenious - 06-18-2011, 08:40 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Hielor - 06-18-2011, 08:59 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Lobster - 06-18-2011, 09:17 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Daedric - 06-18-2011, 10:40 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Ingenious - 06-18-2011, 11:29 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Daedric - 06-19-2011, 12:06 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Cameron - 06-19-2011, 12:23 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Politus - 06-19-2011, 12:39 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Daedric - 06-19-2011, 12:45 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Politus - 06-19-2011, 12:49 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Daedric - 06-19-2011, 12:53 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Ingenious - 06-19-2011, 12:54 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Daedric - 06-19-2011, 12:57 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Politus - 06-19-2011, 12:58 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Ingenious - 06-19-2011, 12:59 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Daedric - 06-19-2011, 01:00 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Daedric - 06-19-2011, 01:27 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Grumblesaur - 06-19-2011, 01:27 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Daedric - 06-19-2011, 01:29 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by mjolnir - 06-19-2011, 07:56 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Jack_Henderson - 06-20-2011, 09:28 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Kontrazec (Somni) - 06-20-2011, 12:30 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Xenosaga - 06-20-2011, 01:40 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by chopper - 06-20-2011, 01:49 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Lohingren - 06-20-2011, 03:01 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Daedric - 06-20-2011, 03:09 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Lohingren - 06-20-2011, 03:19 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Daedric - 06-20-2011, 04:33 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Lohingren - 06-20-2011, 05:07 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Daedric - 06-20-2011, 06:18 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Omicron - 06-20-2011, 07:58 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Ninefour - 06-20-2011, 08:14 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Veygaar - 06-20-2011, 08:15 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Korny - 06-20-2011, 08:16 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Omicron - 06-20-2011, 08:21 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Veygaar - 06-20-2011, 08:26 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Korny - 06-20-2011, 08:31 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Veygaar - 06-20-2011, 08:35 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Korny - 06-20-2011, 08:36 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Veygaar - 06-20-2011, 08:39 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Korny - 06-20-2011, 08:43 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Veygaar - 06-20-2011, 08:49 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Korny - 06-20-2011, 08:50 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Omicron - 06-20-2011, 09:30 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Hielor - 06-21-2011, 03:12 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by arvg - 06-21-2011, 07:26 AM

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