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Offline Daedric
06-20-2011, 05:49 AM,
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My opinion? The person who said what sparked this discussion said what he said because he is frustrated that he cannot play his Zoner without having to deal with the consequences of the actions of the official Zoner factions and that of various independent Zoner players. He misses the time when he could log on and not have to deal with politics and just fly around exploring and such. I say this because I spoke to him months ago about this very subject, though I can't remember the conversation in full.

The fault in his statement is that he lays the blame on the official factions fully. When the blame truly lies with the official Zoner factions, various independent Zoner players, and other factions. No one forces people to treat Zoners in a certain way. When a Corsair feels like shooting at him, that isn't the fault of OSI, TAZ, or the Omicroners. That is the the choice of that player, and his choice is based on any number of things.

As for the topic at hand? While I find Hone to generally be a cool guy, he is utterly ignorant to Zoner lore and role play. Zoner's aren't a faction. They aren't a people. The term Zoner doesn't denote one's nationality. It is a term to describe a way of life. You don't use Zoner, like you do American or Mexican. Look at it more of like Conservative, Liberal, Catholic, etc etc. It is a belief system.

On the matter of Zoners power? I've always made the claim that Zoners are not a military power. Each Freeport/station is an enclave of like-minded individuals who are working together to survive and prosper. Their power comes from their ability to talk their way out of an issue or prove themselves useful to their would be aggressors. I, along with multiple other official Zoner faction leaders proposed that the Jinkusu be made SRP only (before SRPs were closed). This was blocked by various individuals claiming we were trying to nerf the Zoner NPC faction. You can ask anyone who knows me. If it was up to me, there wouldn't be an Aquilon or Jinkusu at all, but it isn't and I know there are those who are glad it isn't. I've been beating the crap out of Dab to make sure no more Zoner stations are added to the mod. I know other Zoner players who agree with that.

While I love Gran Canaria, a world to settle as their own and govern themselves is kind of the golden egg for those who have fled house space. Giving it to them was an extremely poor development decision.

The Zoners were extremely undeveloped by MS. This left a ton of leeway to the people who decided to role play them. There was an effort by Bluespawn and myself to develop the faction as Yuri did with the Keepers. To give it general guidelines and a fleshed out back story. We conferred with a ton of other Zoner players and I think Blue submitted it but I've heard nothing.

I said it the Zoner General chat. Zoners exist as they do now because the development team failed to develop them properly. Zoners were given a bunch of stuff that they then had to create lore to validate and they exist as they do now due to a ton of role play by a ton of different people.

Anyways, saying people can't role play an independent Zoner is a lie. There are more independent Zoners than there are faction Zoners. I rather like how things are now.

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getting back on course or keeping it... - by Jinx - 06-19-2011, 08:39 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Hone - 06-19-2011, 08:53 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Anonymous User - 06-19-2011, 08:53 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Soban - 06-19-2011, 09:03 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Jinx - 06-19-2011, 09:04 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Echo 7-7 - 06-19-2011, 09:06 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by stewcool - 06-19-2011, 09:11 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Dane Summers - 06-19-2011, 09:56 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Hone - 06-19-2011, 10:02 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Arioch - 06-19-2011, 10:31 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Hone - 06-19-2011, 10:42 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Akura - 06-19-2011, 10:45 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Arioch - 06-19-2011, 10:59 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Hone - 06-19-2011, 11:08 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by n00bl3t - 06-19-2011, 11:09 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Hone - 06-19-2011, 11:13 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Arioch - 06-19-2011, 11:17 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Akura - 06-19-2011, 11:20 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Hone - 06-19-2011, 11:26 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by michiyl - 06-19-2011, 11:28 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Tommeh - 06-19-2011, 11:29 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Akura - 06-19-2011, 11:31 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Hone - 06-19-2011, 11:33 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by lousal - 06-19-2011, 02:05 PM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Doc Holliday - 06-19-2011, 03:46 PM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by ProwlerPC - 06-19-2011, 03:57 PM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Hone - 06-19-2011, 03:58 PM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Curios - 06-19-2011, 04:00 PM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by michiyl - 06-19-2011, 04:04 PM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Soban - 06-19-2011, 04:08 PM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by SMI-Great.Fox - 06-19-2011, 06:03 PM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by lousal - 06-19-2011, 06:37 PM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by HuggieSunrise - 06-19-2011, 07:52 PM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by fencore - 06-19-2011, 07:59 PM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by mjolnir - 06-19-2011, 08:11 PM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Curios - 06-19-2011, 08:14 PM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Jinx - 06-19-2011, 08:15 PM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by jammi - 06-19-2011, 08:18 PM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by mjolnir - 06-19-2011, 08:23 PM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by ProwlerPC - 06-19-2011, 08:24 PM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Soban - 06-19-2011, 09:07 PM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Dab - 06-19-2011, 09:52 PM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by lousal - 06-19-2011, 10:30 PM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Jinx - 06-19-2011, 10:33 PM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Dab - 06-19-2011, 11:07 PM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by chopper - 06-19-2011, 11:23 PM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Dab - 06-19-2011, 11:30 PM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Hone - 06-19-2011, 11:41 PM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by lousal - 06-19-2011, 11:41 PM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Decerebrated.Individual - 06-19-2011, 11:56 PM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Jinx - 06-20-2011, 12:00 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by fencore - 06-20-2011, 12:02 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Montezuma/Kukulcan - 06-20-2011, 12:28 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Dab - 06-20-2011, 01:19 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Dane Summers - 06-20-2011, 02:59 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by n00bl3t - 06-20-2011, 03:30 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by casero - 06-20-2011, 03:37 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Garrett Jax - 06-20-2011, 03:46 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by n00bl3t - 06-20-2011, 03:59 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Garrett Jax - 06-20-2011, 04:18 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by n00bl3t - 06-20-2011, 04:38 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Montezuma/Kukulcan - 06-20-2011, 04:45 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by n00bl3t - 06-20-2011, 05:03 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Daedric - 06-20-2011, 05:49 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by n00bl3t - 06-20-2011, 05:58 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by fencore - 06-20-2011, 06:02 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by n00bl3t - 06-20-2011, 06:13 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Daedric - 06-20-2011, 06:21 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by n00bl3t - 06-20-2011, 06:30 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Daedric - 06-20-2011, 06:48 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by n00bl3t - 06-20-2011, 09:47 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Daedric - 06-20-2011, 03:21 PM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Curios - 06-20-2011, 05:29 PM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by lousal - 06-20-2011, 09:04 PM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by n00bl3t - 06-21-2011, 02:17 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Dab - 06-21-2011, 02:37 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by Daedric - 06-21-2011, 02:56 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by n00bl3t - 06-21-2011, 03:05 AM
getting back on course or keeping it... - by JIVA - 06-21-2011, 07:52 AM

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