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Standardize Weaponry
Offline chopper
06-20-2011, 01:49 PM, (This post was last modified: 06-20-2011, 01:51 PM by chopper.)
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' Wrote:It's a simple balancing thing and I support the idea of releasing little balancing and bugfixing updates from time to time, we already have a built-in updater, so this should not be any problem.
For example, a very, very curious, but at the same time, huge balancing problem: Compare the Gaian's Angel gun to the Natterturn Zwei. Let's ignore the fact that both guns are not top-tier anyway.

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Gaia's Angel    Gaians    Photon    320    160    5.88    600 m    750 m/s    90    1,882    941    529

Natterturn Zwei    Red Hessians    Laser    325    162    5.88    600 m    750 m/s    83    1,912    956    488

As you can see: The Natters do more damage at the same range and speed, while consuming less energy. They even belong to the same tech group, meaning they do the same damage to the same type of shield. If you take the Suncannon D of the GC into consideration, it is the EXACT same gun as the Angel, EXCEPT it does more damage. Same energy cost.
Such immensely bad balanced things should not happen.
We could talk about buffs/nerfs for certain guns in another topic.

It's not badly balanced. Again, you are taking balance as something very simple. It's not just numbers.
Gaians are in Bretonia, they never even meet Hessians. What Gaians have to counter (Templars, Paladins, Werewolves, Barghests) can't compare to what Hessians have to counter (Wraiths, Bergelmirs, Titans, Gladiators etc). Compare Natterturns to Hornvipers, or Suncannons, and you'll see they are not any better then the rest.
Gaian weapons are a bit weaker, only because they tend to fight weaker ships all the time. However, Gaians chose to ignore all of this anyway, mounting Del Cids to Black Dragon VHF's all the time.

Also, I can find you the numbers on Gaia's Angel from 4.84, so you can see how much I improved them after all. Here it is:

Quote:Gaia's Angel - Photon
Hull damage - 258
Shield damage - 129
Power usage - 72
Energy efficiency - 3.58
Refire - 5.88
Speed - 750

Proposal:
Hull damage - 320
Shield damage - 160
Power usage - 90
Energy efficiency -
Refire - 5.88
Speed - 750

Around 25% stronger.
On the other hand, Natters were only slightly upgraded, here it goes:

Quote:Hull damage - 314
Shield damage - 157
Power usage - 80
Energy efficiency - 3.9
Refire - 5.88
Speed - 750

Proposal:
Hull damage - 325
Shield damage - 162.5
Power usage - 83
Energy efficiency -
Refire - 5.88
Speed - 750

You can see the rest over here, but I guess some things were changed for the final 4.85 version.

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It is every Corsair's responsibility to die a beautiful death in defense of Crete, regardless of how OORP or how capwhoring the opposition is. Launch your fighter, joust the battlecruisers and die a beautiful death. Then, drink it down in the bar.

Can't let you bash folks in your sig Chopper-Del
 
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Standardize Weaponry - by Daedric - 06-18-2011, 08:02 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Huhuh - 06-18-2011, 08:13 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Daedric - 06-18-2011, 08:21 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Echo 7-7 - 06-18-2011, 08:28 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Huhuh - 06-18-2011, 08:59 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Hielor - 06-18-2011, 09:03 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Daedric - 06-18-2011, 09:11 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Hielor - 06-18-2011, 09:35 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Daedric - 06-18-2011, 10:21 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by chopper - 06-18-2011, 10:47 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by stewcool - 06-18-2011, 10:54 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Hone - 06-18-2011, 11:41 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Ingenious - 06-18-2011, 05:31 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Silver.2 - 06-18-2011, 06:58 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by VoluptaBox - 06-18-2011, 07:03 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Ingenious - 06-18-2011, 07:12 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Enoch - 06-18-2011, 07:21 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Primitive - 06-18-2011, 07:23 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Ivan - 06-18-2011, 07:32 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Pancakes - 06-18-2011, 07:46 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Enoch - 06-18-2011, 07:57 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Pancakes - 06-18-2011, 08:14 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by TheJarl - 06-18-2011, 08:15 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Pancakes - 06-18-2011, 08:22 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by VoluptaBox - 06-18-2011, 08:25 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Slartibartfast - 06-18-2011, 08:28 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Backo - 06-18-2011, 08:29 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Niverlare - 06-18-2011, 08:30 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Ingenious - 06-18-2011, 08:40 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Hielor - 06-18-2011, 08:59 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Lobster - 06-18-2011, 09:17 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Daedric - 06-18-2011, 10:40 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Ingenious - 06-18-2011, 11:29 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Daedric - 06-19-2011, 12:06 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Cameron - 06-19-2011, 12:23 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Politus - 06-19-2011, 12:39 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Daedric - 06-19-2011, 12:45 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Politus - 06-19-2011, 12:49 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Daedric - 06-19-2011, 12:53 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Ingenious - 06-19-2011, 12:54 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Daedric - 06-19-2011, 12:57 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Politus - 06-19-2011, 12:58 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Ingenious - 06-19-2011, 12:59 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Daedric - 06-19-2011, 01:00 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Daedric - 06-19-2011, 01:27 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Grumblesaur - 06-19-2011, 01:27 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Daedric - 06-19-2011, 01:29 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by mjolnir - 06-19-2011, 07:56 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Jack_Henderson - 06-20-2011, 09:28 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by Kontrazec (Somni) - 06-20-2011, 12:30 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Xenosaga - 06-20-2011, 01:40 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by chopper - 06-20-2011, 01:49 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Lohingren - 06-20-2011, 03:01 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Daedric - 06-20-2011, 03:09 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Lohingren - 06-20-2011, 03:19 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Daedric - 06-20-2011, 04:33 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Lohingren - 06-20-2011, 05:07 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Daedric - 06-20-2011, 06:18 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Omicron - 06-20-2011, 07:58 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Ninefour - 06-20-2011, 08:14 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Veygaar - 06-20-2011, 08:15 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Niverlare - 06-20-2011, 08:16 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Omicron - 06-20-2011, 08:21 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Veygaar - 06-20-2011, 08:26 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Niverlare - 06-20-2011, 08:31 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Veygaar - 06-20-2011, 08:35 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Niverlare - 06-20-2011, 08:36 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Veygaar - 06-20-2011, 08:39 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Niverlare - 06-20-2011, 08:43 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Veygaar - 06-20-2011, 08:49 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Niverlare - 06-20-2011, 08:50 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Omicron - 06-20-2011, 09:30 PM
Standardize Weaponry - by Hielor - 06-21-2011, 03:12 AM
Standardize Weaponry - by arvg - 06-21-2011, 07:26 AM

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