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Offline lw'nafh
09-02-2016, 12:24 AM,
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(09-02-2016, 12:22 AM)Magnifique Wrote:
(09-02-2016, 12:12 AM)Kangarawrawr Wrote: I'd like to point out that the players haven't been able to 'trust' the admins not to cheat sinse Virus gave his buddies infinite powercore dual SNACs on their Phantom snubs.

Tru dat.

But...

How do you feel about your past "I don't need to obey rules for you, cause admins don't like you cause you publicly criticized them for that on the forum lol, so Ima just keep pirating right here after you done blowed me up" ingame statements today?

Blow off, Karlotta. You're still hung up on things that happened when I was 14 like they hold any bearing on me as a person today. Get a life, do everybody a favour.
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Offline Sarawr!?
09-02-2016, 12:27 AM,
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(09-02-2016, 12:22 AM)Arioch Wrote:
(09-02-2016, 12:09 AM)Sarawr!? Wrote: I guess that some retroactive bans are in order for the fine players of SCRA| and the [LN] as well, since about, well it must be 3 or 4 years ago now, we were allowed to have access to assets that were not yet in the game.

(Like the current model Storm Gunboat, the redesigned coalition snubs, some gun effects (Navy and SCRA), black skins for the Guardian VHF, engine effects, and so on).


Ban everyone, I guess?


My god I'm glad I quit Disco.

We didn't ban everyone. With new anticheat methods, it's standard that if you flag the anticheat, you'll be placed in Bastille/unable to log in until you can post up and we can figure out why there was an anticheat log against you. 90% of the time it requires a game reinstall and you're good to go. It's not meant to be harsh, it's not meant to be unfair. It's meant as a precaution. It's been that way for a while.

Seriously, it's not like you then have a log on the forums about you cause you flagged the anti cheat. Not like we're keeping record and punishing people on whim, nor is this a punishment. For example, If you get in a car crash, you're going to be questioned by police to what happened. Doesn't mean you're in trouble, doesn't mean you're going to jail. It means the police want to know what happened, and if you're not the cause of it, you're free to go. Nothing on your record (as far as a criminal report), nothing wrong. Just a precaution to figure out why. That's all. An extreme example, but when I see posts like "God i'm glad I quit", not sure what else to say.


Oh I know you didn't ban everyone, that's what I'm saying.


There are people who are directly given assets which are supposedly against our rules, who are not banned, and who do not trigger the anticheat, I know because I was such a person, and factions that I led were given such favors as well, and that's the crux of my point here.

If you're gonna say that it's totally acceptable for an anticheat system to ban a person who was doing a thing that they were ALLOWED to do, then there should be zero tolerance for staff members who directly give people similar assets.

What I'm saying is that if you're going to ban SOME, you better start banning ALL.


Double standards are garbage.

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Offline Arioch
09-02-2016, 12:31 AM,
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But that's not the case now that I am aware of. I don't see any Admin giving assets that flag the anti cheat. Last I remember it was Jax with his SNAC Thor, but that was quite some time ago and hasn't been repeated. Thing is editing the .ini files, dev, admin, regular member is NOT allowed to do on the main server. I guess I'm not seeing where the double standard is currently. It may have been different before, but not now I don't believe.

Is that happening now?

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Offline Magnifique
09-02-2016, 12:31 AM, (This post was last modified: 09-02-2016, 12:38 AM by Magnifique.)
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(09-02-2016, 12:24 AM)Kangarawrawr Wrote:
(09-02-2016, 12:22 AM)Magnifique Wrote:
(09-02-2016, 12:12 AM)Kangarawrawr Wrote: I'd like to point out that the players haven't been able to 'trust' the admins not to cheat sinse Virus gave his buddies infinite powercore dual SNACs on their Phantom snubs.

Tru dat.

But...

How do you feel about your past "I don't need to obey rules for you, cause admins don't like you cause you publicly criticized them for that on the forum lol, so Ima just keep pirating right here after you done blowed me up" ingame statements today?

Blow off, Karlotta. You're still hung up on things that happened when I was 14 like they hold any bearing on me as a person today. Get a life, do everybody a favour.

So who was right, and who was wrong, back when you were only 14? Btw.. I never cared about you as a person, that was just your 14yo personal interpretation.

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Offline Magnifique
09-02-2016, 12:36 AM,
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(09-02-2016, 12:27 AM)Sarawr!? Wrote: Double standards are garbage.

Sarawr, I think I love you.

Go Sarawr!

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Offline Durandal
09-02-2016, 12:37 AM,
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I don't know why I'm still awake but Finn can you please ban Karlotta like wtf?
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Offline Sarawr!?
09-02-2016, 12:38 AM,
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(09-02-2016, 12:31 AM)Arioch Wrote: But that's not the case now that I am aware of. I don't see any Admin giving assets that flag the anti cheat. Last I remember it was Jax with his SNAC Thor, but that was quite some time ago and hasn't been repeated. Thing is editing the .ini files, dev, admin, regular member is NOT allowed to do on the main server. I guess I'm not seeing where the double standard is currently. It may have been different before, but not now I don't believe.

Is that happening now?

It's an arbitrary thing that happened now, I was just painting a larger picture in my attempt to relay that message.

I guess I'll just use short sentences and be direct.


This current situation is the creation of an arbitrary system of controls.

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Offline Magnifique
09-02-2016, 12:39 AM,
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(09-02-2016, 12:37 AM)Durandal Wrote: I don't know why I'm still awake but Finn can you please ban Karlotta like wtf?

You mean ban Sarawr?

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Offline Stygian
09-02-2016, 12:39 AM,
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(09-02-2016, 12:24 AM)Kangarawrawr Wrote: Blow off, Karlotta. You're still hung up on things that happened when I was 14 like they hold any bearing on me as a person today. Get a life, do everybody a favour.

100% right there. How they've let him stick around this long is really blowing my mind. I've been away for 3 years and could tell who it was by reading a couple posts.

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Offline Magnifique
09-02-2016, 12:41 AM,
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(09-02-2016, 12:39 AM)Stygian Wrote:
(09-02-2016, 12:24 AM)Kangarawrawr Wrote: Blow off, Karlotta. You're still hung up on things that happened when I was 14 like they hold any bearing on me as a person today. Get a life, do everybody a favour.

100% right there. How they've let him stick around this long is really blowing my mind. I've been away for 3 years and could tell who it was by reading a couple posts.

Because burning a good book is like burning reason itself.

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