Which is why I have no problem with the concept of this faction at all. I find it rather feasible that a lot of upper-class Bretonians who find themselves well trained in the arts of dueling decide that they're going to run raids into Corsair territory to garner honor and pride for themselves. Besides, remember: The ladies...the ladies...
I've stated the problem that I have with the faction earlier, and choose not to do it again. But as McNeo pointed out:
Quote:Are you serious when you say that you do not think that the Corsairs can mount an invasion of Bretonia?
You seriously believe that after we tried and failed against Rheinland?
It doesn't matter that we were not victorious, the Corsairs are powerful enough to mount an invasion as is proved by both the ingame lore (Road to Rheinland parts 1-3) AND player interactions.
And the Corsairs have the organisation prowess of a banana?
I am sorry, but you speak from the position of reading and knowing what goes on in the Corsair council of Elders, information which nobody outside the Corsairs and relevant other parties knows.
From this alone, I'm only further convinced that my reason to deny this faction's existence is justified.
Please stop waving the ego before my face and put it back in your pants.
I'm not saying that you can never lead a faction, or that the community will never allow you to. In fact, I have confidence in both your RP and leadership ability that you will make a fine faction leader someday. Just not right now. Show me that you can, and I and many others will change their minds. Comments like those before do not help.
Quote:[7:42:05 PM][6:51:36 PM] Igor (Smokey): btw terry
[6:51:48 PM] Terrance Cooper: Ye?
[6:52:00 PM] Igor (Smokey): nothin
[6:52:03 PM] Igor (Smokey): just sayin btw
[6:52:05 PM] Terrance Cooper: <_<
Quote:Johnny_Haas: you shot anti criuse speed rockets!!!
Johnny_Haas: but why????
Johnny_Haas: ??
Johnny_Haas: why you shoot criuse speed rockets?
You know, there's a bigger problem than all the crying about your wanting to shoot up their favourite faction et cetera et cetera.
Generally, I'm in agreement with Athenian... but one thing needs sorted.
The Name.
You're The Order (of the Lion)... like those dudes with the Osiris that shoot aliens? Wait, no, like a Crusading Order? What, like those random Christians from Britain, France, Germany, Portugal, Spain... oh, bugger...
' Wrote:You're forgetting the one little fact that the Corsairs could easily send a couple battle groups, which is plenty to do major damage against the very weak Bretonian Armed Forces, and still leave Gamma very heavily defended.
If they could do this - they would have done so already. Utter bollocks.
' Wrote:If they could do this - they would have done so already. Utter bollocks.
Not at all, they haven't had a reason to do it.
It's easier to make money raiding other people's trade and income than it is to try and manage your own. Therefore, why would the Corsairs want to conquer Bretonia and then be burdened with trying to rule a conquered populace (a very difficult task) when they can just keep raiding their commerce instead. It's better business for the Corsairs to leave Bretonia as is.
If Bretonia ever forced the Corsairs' hand though, then they would be forced to change their methods.
Also, in the past Bretonia was much stronger than they are now. So no, the Corsairs didn't do it because it wasn't such an easy thing like it is now. Right now Bretonia is by far the weakest house. Their military was almost totally destroyed in the battle for Leeds. So I agree, it may have been a really tough target for the Corsairs in the past - but things have changed.
Zig, I think that a few things need to happen for this to work
You need to show maturiaty on these forums, your name has been tossed around a bit in the moderator chat, and that effects your public perception as well.
I had a Corsair character for about a week, and I got very annoyed by the end of it. It was during your M&S or whatever period, and I found myself logging off instead of fighting a lot. My advice would be to make a Corsair character (and play it) for a bit, get a feel for the other side. See the loling BH BC fleets from the other side of their guns.
Stop being dismissive of Corsair players. Yes, the Corsair NPC faction attracts a lot of lolindys. But when you act dismissive toward all of the Corsair Players, it makes people hostile, and leads to threads that grow faster then people can read them. It also effects your public image, as stated in my 3rd paragraph. If you don't understand what I mean by this PM me.
Fourth, stay out of the Omicrons. Completly. Not even to chase a player into Gamma. If they are running, and get to the Omicrons, let em go.
Finally, stop mentioning seiges and bases, you are a fighter wing, not a capship fleet. TBH, if I ever see you in anything bigger then a bomber that's not a transport I'll be disappointed. Harrass convoys, perform hit and fades on bases, scout JHs and bases. Not seiges.
Actually, a final finally. Re-read Athenian's post. And again. Ok, one more time. He's very very very right.
' Wrote:Not at all, they haven't had a reason to do it.
It's easier to make money raiding other people's trade and income than it is to try and manage your own. Therefore, why would the Corsairs want to conquer Bretonia and then be burdened with trying to rule a conquered populace (a very difficult task) when they can just keep raiding their commerce instead. It's better business for the Corsairs to leave Bretonia as is.
If Bretonia ever forced the Corsairs' hand though, then they would be forced to change their methods.
All this hypothetical rubbish is rubbish. That is a fact.:P
Anyway, if they could invade, they would. Cambridge is the 'breadbasket of Bretonia'. Sounds like something the Corsairs would want, I reckons. Then they could quit relying on Zoners and pwn the crap out of everyone in the Omegas and Omicrons.
I mean, this is all rubbish.
Why don't they invade places because of them foreign Bounty Hunters? Would they invade Bretonia if the BHG used Templars instead of Bounty Hunter Destroyers? Why haven't they invaded the Bounty Hunter Guard system?
Harharhar. So much silliness over a few guys wanting to shoot at Titans in Templars with a slight change of venue.
Quote:You're forgetting the one little fact that the Corsairs could easily send a couple battle groups, which is plenty to do major damage against the very weak Bretonian Armed Forces, and still leave Gamma very heavily defended.
' Wrote:Not at all, they haven't had a reason to do it.
It's easier to make money raiding other people's trade and income than it is to try and manage your own. Therefore, why would the Corsairs want to conquer Bretonia and then be burdened with trying to rule a conquered populace (a very difficult task) when they can just keep raiding their commerce instead. It's better business for the Corsairs to leave Bretonia as is.
If Bretonia ever forced the Corsairs' hand though, then they would be forced to change their methods.
Also, in the past Bretonia was much stronger than they are now. So no, the Corsairs didn't do it because it wasn't such an easy thing like it is now. Right now Bretonia is by far the weakest house. Their military was almost totally destroyed in the battle for Leeds. So I agree, it may have been a really tough target for the Corsairs in the past - but things have changed.
Jack Handey Wrote:I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it.
Neo, that ain't the TBH channel name, unless my Skype is buggered.
' Wrote:Comments like those before do not help.
Sorry, maybe I'm a little biased, but uh... What comments? From what I saw, Zig was on the defensive, using inoffensive counter-arguments against what were literally attacks on his character.
' Wrote:I'd suggest a better name, at least.
That's one of the things that concerns me. Name seems a little cheesey, especially for knights, but we've already got a banner and everything. /signed
' Wrote:If they could do this - they would have done so already. Utter bollocks.
/signed
' Wrote:I had a Corsair character for about a week, and I got very annoyed by the end of it. It was during your M&S or whatever period, and I found myself logging off instead of fighting a lot. My advice would be to make a Corsair character (and play it) for a bit, get a feel for the other side. See the loling BH BC fleets from the other side of their guns.
I was on both the giving and the receiving ends of the M&S phase. The third member who never got a kill and usually fell before he knew what was happening. I was also one of the Corsairs who raised defenses against him and ensured that the daft fools only brought fighters and bombers, rather than the biggest ships they had. Let me tell you, all Corsairs, even many of the faction players, were instinctively throwing everything they had at him long before they had any experience with the 'M&S' tag. Know why? Hunters. I could go into greater depth, but once more I speak from both the giving and the receiving ends. We Corsairs are some of the most prejudiced bastards you'll ever meet.
' Wrote:Anyway, if they could invade, they would. Cambridge is the 'breadbasket of Bretonia'. Sounds like something the Corsairs would want, I reckons. Then they could quit relying on Zoners and pwn the crap out of everyone in the Omegas and Omicrons.
Two signs in one post, Blunt. /signed
' Wrote:I can assure the Corsairs that they will have no problem with this faction, PvP wise, for one simple fact.
I'm in it. That means free regens for all within approximately two seconds.
I must sign that too. Really, would a 'pvp elite' faction have laggy Australians like us in it?
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