OPG isn't here to make any threats. I was also excluded from civilization for few days and Asno pointed me here today. It is sad to see that only two or three people in 6 pages are hitting the right point of the issue here.
First one is that indies should obey order as theese, but in general if someone desires to fight alone and die, he's free to by my book. Orders as "go in first and scout" or something else of equal danger or secure death can be replied with "**** you" easily. We're not running an fascist state here.
Second one is that we indeed have more enemies than friends and those bounty hunter capitals that visit gamma every once in a while would have a fairly easy job if we were separated. We really don't need that ****, and I really don't want to shoot greens.
Third one is absolutely correct, this is an secure comm of an family, not an spamhole for petty fights that escalated to this level.
Whats this about splitting the space territory? What gives right to any of the families to draw a line and put one group at one place and one at another. I'm proud to be a corsair, and proud to wear their tag, and proud of every inch of the entire Corsair space. Now to tell me that one place is mine, and other is yours simply won't do.
' Wrote:Comm ID: Asno Muleo, leader of the OPG
RE: The Voronov/Eagle_one incident
I would like to say a few things. I know the pilot of the Eagle_one rather well, and as an ex Brotherhood pilot, i know a few things about TBH too. Let me speak as an impartial onlooker.
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you are sure that miguel is insult you? he say only facts.... this are your words.... and i dont know what is not clear on EX BROTHERHOOD PILOT.... so calm down please.
and to the orders. one question, you know what happend when RM pilot give order to independent pilot and he refuse? you know what happend when RoS or 101 member give order to independent outcast and he refuse? you know what happend when KNF puilot give order to independent police pilot and he refuse? you know what happend when SA,LSF pilot give order to independent police/navy pilot and he refuse? you know what happend when Bs pilot give order to independent order pilot and he refuse? i am sure that all know answers....
OOC: I might guess, but I don't know. So basically... and OOCly, because Stalin killed all the people that didn't want to go to the front, other countries should do that too?
RP: I don't think we should look upon those that we fight against for advice. We can solve this between each other.
yes, we can solve this between each other. maybe. but that not change that thing,that in all systems o sirius are less problems,when all know who give orders. i will not say that independent corsairs have no rights or something. only that everywhere except gamma are these things clear.
When you put it that way it sounds better. Indies will always be below, but I got a general impression here that some members want to give TBH power over other clans.
Quote:you are sure that miguel is insult you? he say only facts.... this are your words.... and i dont know what is not clear on EX BROTHERHOOD PILOT.... so calm down please.
Quote:1. I have not officially left the Brotherhood, my fighter is at your disposal, and still proudly flies the Brotherhood colours, if you wish this to be removed, I will do so.
Like I said, I don't consider myself TBH anymore, but I never officially left like he suggested, and what angered me was not that he said that I left, but the last comment about how I should return the funding for my Titan, in essence accusing me of stealing.
Quote:Whats this about splitting the space territory? What gives right to any of the families to draw a line and put one group at one place and one at another. I'm proud to be a corsair, and proud to wear their tag, and proud of every inch of the entire Corsair space. Now to tell me that one place is mine, and other is yours simply won't do.
Ivan, this was a proposal in negotiations, and in no way something that was going to be forced on the Corsairs. The Only reason it was made public was to prove wrong the claim that TBH is not interested in any kind of negotiated settlement of Corsair issues, it was a first proposal and we were looking forward to counterproposal's or at least feedback to use this as the start of a power sharing between the Brotherhood and Benitez, and was before the re-emergence of OPG on the scene. I hope that answers that question for you. If you have others I would be glad to answer them to the best of my abilities.
Now to you Anso, I dont know where you think you are, everyone here can read your words.
Quote:as an ex Brotherhood pilot
Quote: I have not officially left the Brotherhood
These are your words Anso, so how is it you would take these clearly conflicting statements from you.
Quote:Again you insult me unprovoked.
As to this Anso, when have I EVER insulted you, provoked, unprovoked or otherwise? I want to see it. What you have done here, is to lie to try and make me look like some kind of bad guy for calling you out on the facts of what you said, and I will not let you do it without showing everyone the truth, thus exposing your lies to all Corsairs.
Quote:
It ends now
and Anso, you still have not answered my question. What ends now? How are you going to end it? Is this some kind of threat toward the TBH or anyone else, or is this just another one of your attempts to bring about a civil war?
Anso, before you post, next time try and get your stories straight.
CHECK IT GUYS, THE BROTHERHOOD DUMP JUST PASSED 1000 POSTS.
WOOOOOOOOTTT:)
EDIT: Anso I hope you know, when you suggest you are in both OPG and TBH you are in clear violation of Server rules.
Quote:4.1 No characters are allowed to join more than 1 faction. Characters from one account can join different factions freely, unless faction policy specifies another rule for this, but no more than 2 system-owning factions at one time.
Comm ID:Asno Muleo (try to spell it right Shepradii, Asno not Anso)
RE:Sephardi
' Wrote:Now to you Anso, I dont know where you think you are, everyone here can read your words.
These are your words Anso, so how is it you would take these clearly conflicting statements from you.
Didn't I just answer this?:
' Wrote:Comm ID: Asno Muleo
RE: Globalo
Like I said, I don't consider myself TBH anymore, but I never officially left like he suggested, and what angered me was not that he said that I left, but the last comment about how I should return the funding for my Titan, in essence accusing me of stealing.
Asno.
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End transmission.
//OOC from hereon
Quote:As to this Anso, when have I EVER insulted you, provoked, unprovoked or otherwise? I want to see it. What you have done here, is to lie to try and make me look like some kind of bad guy for calling you out on the facts of what you said, and I will not let you do it without showing everyone the truth, thus exposing your lies to all Corsairs.
You know damn well that you're just continuing this from the OTC AFA incident, I thought we'd resolved this but here you are attacking me again, made a mistake here, confusing char and all that, for that sorry.
Quote:and Anso, you still have not answered my question. What ends now? How are you going to end it? Is this some kind of threat toward the TBH or anyone else, or is this just another one of your attempts to bring about a civil war?
I have no wishes for civil war, you're twisting my words again, as always. How on earth is that a threat? Did i put a threat after it? No. I was just making my feelings clear, but I suppose you would have me silent on this matter?
Quote:EDIT: Anso I hope you know, when you suggest you are in both OPG and TBH you are in clear violation of Server rules.
What rule is that? That a leader can't be in any other factions? I know of it, when OPG becomes official, I will remove my TBH character officially.
Less petty bickering, more OPG oficialling please. And yes, in times like these lets all keep our opinions to ourselves and bury it all down where it should remain. More things unite us than divide, keep that in mind everyone, or do we need Angelina Jolie here as ambasador of good will?:(
Comm ID: Raul D. Yanez, Elder of TBH
Message to: All you blokes who flood this comms
Right, hermanos and hermanas, perhaps you can read the title. It says "TBH Comms Channel", not "Flood this Channel Channel". Please, I can't stand dozens of new messages slowing down my datapad, so please open up a new comms channel if you wish to flood a channel ((Maybe in an OOC place would fit better, the filtered RP can be made later)).
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