Poll: Jetblack & Doj

[Thyrzul]

There actually has been an attempt at this once (for one day), but one of the admins decided to punish me for no real reason, deleting that Juggernaut spazzy talked about along with a handful of other ships, hence that approach didn't seem like one that would work to neither me nor Jetblack.

However, if for some reason the staff would like this idea in official practice instead of an experiment, I'm all for it.

Well, yes, I was suggesting that the other side, the Administration Team would do as suggested too. Like refraining from banning your persons just for being you. That would render the whole supervision thing pointless.

Regarding the "behind the scenes" part, I hope you don't mind my further skepticism, but word from the other side whether such thing happened or not would be useful.

Besides, looked up the account you linked, few posts in LH MD. Good example of how much potential there is in roleplaying a hacker.

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[ProwlerPC]

Hell of a read. You keep mentioning we don't understand your logic. Believe me, I do understand your logic, I see it with complete clarity but I denounce it for the lie that it is. You did a lot of foolish stuff in the past, but the one thing that got you banned was when you yourself chose to go out with a bang vomiting all kinds of racial bigotry publicly in the community. I wasn't admin then but I can still go and look at what wasn't deleted, but invis'd. You did come back for awhile too, lasting several months. We had no clue and woulda never had any clue if you kept your mouth shut, but you can't help yourself. That day when Cannon found some ship calling everyone the n-bomb and screaming out profane bigotry he didn't, nor did any of us, know it was you until you came on the forums screaming that we biased admins were picking on you. I still lulz at that time "Oh look, what do you know....it's Doj! Long time no see!". You can't help yourself, I know you can't, too much experience with you even before becoming and admin. Since nothing truly gets deleted I got to see a lot of invis'd stuff when I became admin. I've read up enough on this case I'm voting to keep the ban on.

You read the signs and knew them well, yet you chose to ignore them at your own peril, no need to come to my desk...if it comes time that we feel you will be fine here, I'll come to your desk.

P.S. : I was always a more successful troll and my skin is extremely thick, at least one of you guys had a few yrs sitting in the front seat learning this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awqvLlnCzmU

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[Potter Harry]

Well, yes, I was suggesting that the other side, the Administration Team would do as suggested too. Like refraining from banning your persons just for being you. That would render the whole supervision thing pointless.

Regarding the "behind the scenes" part, I hope you don't mind my further skepticism, but word from the other side whether such thing happened or not would be useful.

Besides, looked up the account you linked, few posts in LH MD. Good example of how much potential there is in roleplaying a hacker.

I never considered anyone's skepticism unreasonable. It's pretty much expected. So go ahead and ask them for confirmation. If they're unwilling to give any, I can simply give you a bunch of Skypelogs as an alternative.

Okay, here ya go

Threaten to be a dick? lol threaten to cry again next week more like it

I see. That's one for Jetblack to take, then.

[Marburg]

Heh! Both of them are horrible liars. Doj is just pissing down our backs & telling us it's raining, & jetblack? he just simply hasn't ever shown a lick of sense about anything & this thread is even more evidence of that. If either of them actually had the capacity to prove they deserved another chance, they would have both made an honest effort looooong before now.

This ain't about a second chance. They both had multiple second chances & blew it time & time again.

Let 'em circumvent their bans all they like...it's obvious they like the game & want to be accepted back otherwise they wouldn't spend the time trying to blow smoke up our asses while simultaneously threatening to be pricks until they get what they want. They're both complete fools to think they should be rewarded with forgiveness

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[Lythrilux]

Eh, I don't really know.
I'm not supportive of your dickish behaviour, especially in Penny. However, Doj is an alright guy, so perhaps he could come back with supervision.
I haven't seen much of Jetblack though.

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[narchlojentak]

Maybe a silly question to J & D, but if you so want to back to community and want to prove you can be better...why aren´t you just "silently" playing and proving it? You obviously can go around ban. So why aren´t you just playing and hiding yourself between other players? Because I don´t get how admins can find you, only option which comes to my mind is that you are breaking the rules again and again and then admins notice you, find your accounts and delete them.

[Luke.]

Don't know you, don't really care. This is only an argument that admins can settle but whatever, i'll give my 2 cents.

However, I don't see why you feel the need to circumvent bans all the time...like, does that make you feel good? Is that why you do it? The nerdy kind that think that doing stuff like that is difficult and you do it just to troll and piss people off. Well, looks like you did that so congratz.. Not quite sure what you gain from it as the admins seem happy to just continually ban you over and over...ironic really, they probably take pleasure in doing so as well. I doubt they're like that though.

I co-owned a Minecraft/Tekkit server for a long time, I know your kind perfectly well. It's just hilarious that people out there feel the need. Simple IP changes, all kinds of backdooring to evade the database and ridiculous attitudes to simply apologising only to do it again. Your original post about not being conceited...yeah I don't believe a word you say. You're just being nice because you're bored, you won't change at all. One massive troll attempt and unfortunately everyone's feeding it (so am I, I know. I just want to get my opinion on you out there from what i'm reading. Exactly what you want but hey, it's the internet. Freedom that nobody wants)

Even if you did get let back in (I hope you don't), where's the point. No one likes or wants you here it seems so you'd be forced back to your old ways. Vicious cycle...bad trolling doesn't get you any more love than good trolling.

Not my decision though, eh.

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[Redon]

Maybe a silly question to J & D, but if you so want to back to community and want to prove you can be better...why aren´t you just "silently" playing and proving it? You obviously can go around ban. So why aren´t you just playing and hiding yourself between other players? Because I don´t get how admins can find you, only option which comes to my mind is that you are breaking the rules again and again and then admins notice you, find your accounts and delete them.

This. Instead of demanding to be unbanned in order to "play nice", just play nice regardless and you might just earn it the other way around. If I'm reading the OP right, you're trying to make us believe you should be unbanned because being banned makes it impossible for you to behave like anything than complete jackasses. I hope you see how this is a pretty silly argument.

Based on what I read I very much doubt anything will change though, and I'm pretty sure you know that too.

[Oorn]

Instead of demanding to be unbanned in order to "play nice", just play nice regardless and you might just earn it the other way around. If I'm reading the OP right, you're trying to make us believe you should be unbanned because being banned makes it impossible for you to behave like anything than complete jackasses. I hope you see how this is a pretty silly argument.

Based on what I read I very much doubt anything will change though, and I'm pretty sure you know that too.

They said it several times that they were slaped despite "playing nice" on new IP, so its not an option anymore. I dont know how much of "playing nice" was true, but because nobody so far challenged this statement I assume its true. And admin/mod altitude is not helping it either.

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When "roleplay" around you seems to be diminishing... all you can do is be a new beacon of roleplay to light up everyone else's interactions.

[Luke.]

They said it several times that they were slaped despite "playing nice" on new IP, so its not an option anymore. I dont know how much of "playing nice" was true, but because nobody so far challenged this statement I assume its true. And admin altitude is not helping it either.

Can you honestly blame them though? Really? Not their fault they've had to deal with 2 problem children for months on top of everything else, for the sake of the rest of Discovery...which is basically the last active server keeping the damn game alive.

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