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Weapon balance proposal

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Weapon balance proposal
Offline mjolnir
03-22-2008, 02:42 PM,
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' Wrote:Nah, we both now Odin isn't better then Wrath:)
It's much bigger.

Added Natterturn proposal and edited hornviper to 3.5.

But it turns the same and is non-vanilla. They are evenly matched.

The Natterturn seems too superior to Hornviper now... with 50m/s speed extra.. I would move it closer.

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Offline chopper
03-22-2008, 02:44 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-22-2008, 02:47 PM by chopper.)
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Odin - 1.2
Wrath - 1.25

That's not a small difference.
And not to mention that Wrath is more agile as well, smaller as well.

Though Odin has 6 guns, so I guess it's balanced. But with even guns.

Also, Natterturn is Laser, Hornviper is Tachyon.
And we both know that 80% of the server mounts graviton shields.
Nah, it's just my opinion. Let's wait for the others to share their view.

About Natterturn Zwei being superior in my proposal.. Yes, perhaps. I will edit it to 338/169, i guess that's fine.
Though look at the situation now.. Natterturn pwns Hornviper:P

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Offline mjolnir
03-22-2008, 02:46 PM,
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Hmm. I forgot it's laser yes... but still.. a bit closer to Hornviper maybe?

EDIT: Add it to the turrets also pls.

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Offline chopper
03-22-2008, 02:55 PM,
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Added Natterturn turret.
I don't know if Thor has a forward firing turret?
If not, they can only use it on Sabre's.

Lucendez Wrote:
It is every Corsair's responsibility to die a beautiful death in defense of Crete, regardless of how OORP or how capwhoring the opposition is. Launch your fighter, joust the battlecruisers and die a beautiful death. Then, drink it down in the bar.

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Offline AdamantineFist
03-31-2008, 04:42 PM,
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' Wrote:And we both know that 80% of the server mounts graviton shields.

I don't! I use molecular! :DWhy exactly is it that everyone uses graviton? I've never really understood that.

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Offline chopper
04-01-2008, 07:11 PM,
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Why? Because 95% of the server uses shield busters.
And Graviton provides additional protection against pulse guns.
So it's the most logical choice.

Anyway, just looked back a bit..

Quote:Ehm.. "lousier ships"... you mean Sabre and Odin.. both are same or better than Wrath... so that would be a no.

This made me laugh now.. I know you already realized how bad Odin is, but still.:lol:

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Offline mjolnir
04-01-2008, 07:21 PM,
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' Wrote:Anyway, just looked back a bit..
This made me laugh now.. I know you already realized how bad Odin is, but still.:lol:

Nah... I never flew the Odin yet.... but I can hit it quite easily... that said I can hit just about everything :P

and Sabre is better.... anyway this is not the place.

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Offline mjolnir
04-19-2008, 10:56 AM,
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just bumping this.... in light of Elgato's vengeance upgrade proposal...

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Offline AdamantineFist
04-23-2008, 03:00 AM,
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One thing I'd like to note is that, under the current proposal, the plasma weapons of both Liberty and Rheinland are a bit underpowered. They both have only 600 speed, and a refire rate of 2.00, yet do less damage than their higher refire counterparts. They should be brought up to have a damage at least as high as the Kraken's, if not higher, as they are lower refire rate weapons with a slower speed.

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Offline chopper
04-23-2008, 03:42 AM, (This post was last modified: 04-23-2008, 03:45 AM by chopper.)
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I agree, but rocks were thrown at me for even proposing 600 speed - as it would be 'overpowered'.
When I asked how, I got no answer.

900/450 damage with 600 speed and 2.0 refire is still very weak, and that is a fact.
I can't change people's minds though. You can find a discussion about that on some recent pages.
I agree that they should be brought to almost match the Code weapons.. Because they would still only be usable for Military.
And there would be no obvious reasons for people to go OORP and use other faction guns, or even codename guns.
Plasmas are supposed to have greatest damage per second.. And as they are now, they have lower dps then most guns and + have the worst speed.
That means - useless.
If it was only about me, I'd put 1200/600 damage with 600 speed and some 280 energy usage.

But, I guess we'r the minority here... unless more people supports this point of view, I'm keeping it as it is.
Of course, this is just a basic proposal that needs more work.. but I'm not really suitable person to 'balance' it completely.
So, what's important is - we have a consensus that we need gun improvements for certain factions.
Igiss has the last word on the subject, though.


Lucendez Wrote:
It is every Corsair's responsibility to die a beautiful death in defense of Crete, regardless of how OORP or how capwhoring the opposition is. Launch your fighter, joust the battlecruisers and die a beautiful death. Then, drink it down in the bar.

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