Outcast x Corsair equipment and ship balance

[Dopamino]

I was referring to the food shortages of the corairs.

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[Jwnantze]

Look, Im drawing the line with Hessian ships when our allience says we can use BD ships alright?? My guys would go Ape if I forced them to use JUST one line of ships. As to the BLS they are a KUSARI based Outcast group and as such can use BD ships. Now I know who in the RoS has one, Its Lohingren, and he says that because we are getting Capwhored on a daily basis by bounty bunters he is going to make a squadron of them to defend Alpha. Take it up with him. And as for the Hessian cruiser, hes not in my Squad, and he has had that thing for months and no one said anything.

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There is nothing worth living for, unless it is worth dying for. -Elizabeth Elliott

[Equinox]

Corsairs get cap whored all the time but they still fly corsair ships.

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[chopper]

Right, here it goes.

@Eppyon - So, if you encounter Corsairs and you have bigger numbers, like 2:1 in your favor, will you turn off half of your guns? Or 3/4? To make it balanced...

@Duke Nuke'm - I don't care what they are, they are Outcasts.
If they are from Kusari, that doesn't give them the right to fly BD.
Why you ask me? Well, because Bloody Dragons WON'T SELL THEM ONE!
You are all talking about RP here, but you on the OC side keep ignoring the fact that BLOOD DRAGON HF concept is being kept HIDDEN even from BD's closest allies.
And that is GC.
Outcasts come third, and they shouldn't even be in alliance with Blood Dragons.
Every damn faction can say that they are from Kusari, and take to fly Blood Dragon. IT IS NOT AN EXCUSE!
Nothing can convince me that it is justified for OC to fly Blood Dragon HF.
And Lohingren is flying a BD because he is loosing?
Oh great, well, BSG should get Blood Dragon HF as well because HF, RoS, and independent Outcasts in Battleships are invading Taus every day, right?
That is not an excuse! It is even pathetic! Very pathetic.
You can't just take a better ship because you are loosing, for god sake.
If you want to fly a Blood Dragon HF, join the Blood Dragons, and then do what you like.
I am really sick of people justifying their acts with "We'r being pwned" arguments.
TBH lost a war against RM, even though they had more people in it.
Why? Because Titan SUX compared to Wrath.
Did they go and take Vipers, R.Claws or something? No, they fly Titans still.

@All Outcasts - Please reconsider your acts and fly strictly Outcast ships.

And that means for all other factions, Corsairs should fly theirs, Hessians theirs etc etc.

@McNeo - It was a faction i believe with a name LDDLG, some time ago.
I haven't seen them recently, they just crossed my mind.
As i said, i respect TBH and Benitez in their ship usage very much.
I wish if everyone would see things like that.

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It is every Corsair's responsibility to die a beautiful death in defense of Crete, regardless of how OORP or how capwhoring the opposition is. Launch your fighter, joust the battlecruisers and die a beautiful death. Then, drink it down in the bar.

Can't let you bash folks in your sig Chopper-Del

[Unseelie]

Why are you so different from the RM, The KNF, The TBH, The QCO/P, the NovaPG, the Benitez, and all the other factions who fly only one line of ships? The SF got pounded for flying RH ships, even with their alliance's permission, and goodwill, not to mention longstanding RP. Why are you so different? And, for that matter, what's wrong with the Sabre?
Its an awesome ship, has a great power-plant and a low profile.

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[chopper]

Just like Unselie says, Sabre is an awesome ship.
What should QCO do with their Templar thing?
Go fly Raven Claw, or Talon, right?
Just so they can win the war.
But no, they are trying to fly Hussars instead, they are trying different tactics.
It's not all in "Oh well, i'l go get a better ship and think of some crappy story to justify it".
There is no excuse for flying a bad ship, especially not for ENTIRE FACTION.

NovaPG came from Red Hessians, but they don't really fly Odins, right?

Edit : Just a notice (because Mjonlir may come and try to attack me:P), i had a Catamaran Bomber on my BSG char, for a week.
It was RP-ed as an experiment vessel. And it was scrapped for a Taiidan again.
It has seen a battle only once! And a small one. And after i saw how good that bomber is, i decided to scrap it.
Because, people might think that it is used only to gain advantage, but it was not like that.
Whole story started with QCO attacking Taus with Battleship, and our incompetence to counter that Battleship with our Vipers.
So, we asked from KNF to sell us one Catamaran, so we can defend Taus.
But, anyway, there's no point talking about it, it is being scraped, and i have no excuse for using that one.
At least i'v seen my mistake in time, and decided to get rid of it.
I'm on my Taiidan again.

My point is, it's not too late for you guys to scrap your BD cheat fighters;)

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It is every Corsair's responsibility to die a beautiful death in defense of Crete, regardless of how OORP or how capwhoring the opposition is. Launch your fighter, joust the battlecruisers and die a beautiful death. Then, drink it down in the bar.

Can't let you bash folks in your sig Chopper-Del

[Othman]

Mark, don't waste your breath. Its the way Outcasts were created. Ah, maybe we should take a look at the vanilla and the stats of sabre and titan. Which one of em got a significant upgrade in discovery and which one did not? We were supposed to be based on the vanilla, were not we? But come on there is an easy explanation, cardy made em rich and they should burn Corsairs to the ground in every aspect of technology. The real reasons are always hidden under the carpet and YOU people are taking the advantage of that by bragging how a drug made your people more intelligent. Do you think this is a reasonable argument I can accept? This is a load of bully..

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On the uncharted lagoons of anguish, I sail with a canoe made of my sins.

[Epholl]

Argument like "we have less people, we need better ships" is just wrong. Lets RP a faction, that has some super-nomad tech, but only one guy left fron the army, so he should have a ship able to pawn all outcasts and corsairs together to balance it.... We wont get anywhere with arguments like this.

If better ships, then two times harder to fly ships.

And I beg you again, before continuing flaming, ask B-Dog to give you some money on the PvP and go try it Outcasts and Corsairs, Corsairs and Outcasts.

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[chopper]

Sure, if Outcasts are going to fly Outcast ships.
When i feel like fighting against Blood Dragon HF, i will ask Blood Dragons to fight me.

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It is every Corsair's responsibility to die a beautiful death in defense of Crete, regardless of how OORP or how capwhoring the opposition is. Launch your fighter, joust the battlecruisers and die a beautiful death. Then, drink it down in the bar.

Can't let you bash folks in your sig Chopper-Del

[Othman]

And I beg you again, before continuing flaming, ask B-Dog to give you some money on the PvP and go try it Outcasts and Corsairs, Corsairs and Outcasts.

Ok, what you say is good. What I am only talking about is the balance between sabre and titan since I flew both and know them. I will not comment about the bomber or capital balance. Its others' job. What I try to say is it is the discovery where Outcasts outpowered Corsairs with superior technology, not the vanilla. And well, seeing here people presenting such arguments that drugery making them live longer and more intelligent and asserting that this is the main reason Outcasts should be superior will not convince me never.

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On the uncharted lagoons of anguish, I sail with a canoe made of my sins.