How do we reduce player apathy/Leaving rates?

[SnakThree]

Everything should be balanced according to logic and realism

No.

and this attitude.

Realism and logic can be found in EVE. People choose to have second jobs in game. Why would I want that in Discovery?

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[lIceColon]

Realism and logic can be found in EVE. People choose to have second jobs in game. Why would I want that in Discovery?

Check the post the original quote came from.

Perhaps the lack of respect for different playstyles then. There are people looking for a challenge, then there are people who just want to play the game leisurely. There are hardcore PVP and RP'ers, there are people who prefer the competition of typical multiplayer games, there are people who want to make things explode, then there are the "relaxed" type who just want to sit in Manhattan orbit in their LNS. The point is, people play the game for different reasons. I get the feeling that the devs and community seem to be trying, but not trying very hard in balancing the game to accommodate every playstyle. And if you can't find the ideal solution to satisfy everyone, then you have to focus on a "niche" to retain and attract a specific playstyle. The current half-assed line between "this is a serious roleplay server, you cannot defy the cannon, you having cool ships and weapons is illogical, those two factions had a cease fire we don't care if the raids were fun" and "this is a game so we have all these rules, and we make ship stats more or less the same since there obviously isn't some other way to balance a fight, we balance economy so you make more or less the same profit whether smugglingor transporting gold or helium, and expensive battleships are real easy to destroy if you have a much cheaper ship because their shields are only 4x that of a transports despite being military" is simply not really working out.

Also in some aspects, discovery is a second job. Even though there is much less grinding, you still have to grind for at least around a week (and that is extremely zealously) if you want to reach a battleship from scratch. Some people think RP means acting out your role. But isn't acting a job as well?

There is of course the misconception that realism directly translates to difficulty, which is hardly the case. Realism simply helps with the immersion, and there are many ways to make realism easy. For one, battleships would at least have partial AI control to simulate the crews aboard so that capships aren't just ginormous single-pilot ships. You might be able to RP a ship with a seperate helmsman, 20 or so gunners and navigations and tactics officer, but a single targeting reticule and TS is just a serious underutilization of the ship's hardware. Real battleships would probably have flak gunners and mortar crews and turret operators who can operate simultaneously. Some people might enjoy the challenge of taking on the role of an entire battleship's crew at once, but not me. And if you think just because I don't have the skill to effectively RP a battleship means that I shouldn't want a battleship, then you are mistaken because the last time I checked, I - and many other players - are here to have fun (and fly cool ships), not to be assessed on our pixel piloting skills.

[SnakeLancerHaven]

Give Gallia to Nomads or the Wilde *chuckle* I'm sure people would like to cool off their heads from all the RP grounds and move to a sector which is fully conquered by Aliens and adventures and actions 8| Is always fun to move to a different place and hunt aliens.

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[7AlphaOne1]

well, since the guy himself [achille] left, lets leave this s\thread in his honour.

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TO FLOOD OR NOT TO FLOOD, THAT IS THE QUESTION.

Well, I've managed to piss off Snak3, Ageira, LH~, Furries, Wisp, but at least Beast is happy.

[Troyan12345]

1 Scrap this mod
2 Go back to vanila
3 Look back at how the growth of the mod affected player base
4 Do the oposite
5 ????
6 Profit

[Sath]

1 Scrap this mod
2 Go back to vanila
3 Look back at how the growth of the mod affected player base
4 Do the oposite
5 ????
6 Profit

That is a vary evil idea :o

Also, no one would be so much caring about a mod this old. FL is a very old game. So its natural that the players move on to something that they find more interesting to play with.

[Gaz83]

Delete Gallia?

[Ash]

I'm going to break it down to two options as I'm sure deep down all of us know it's going to go one way or the other.

• Option 1: We continue to expand and develop the mod while players gradually and naturally decline in number. Expansion will thin out players, lower RP and PvP opportunities, give players less of a reason to play and ultimately turn more players away over a shorter amount of time. The game and mod will eventually die out, i'm willing to bet within 2 years but hey, disco has surprised us before. The benefits of which is that we get to see how far we can really push this game before we go out with a bang when the server explodes with awesomeness.
  
• Option 2: We radically restructure the mod to accommodate the player count that let's face it, is never going to be what it was. Players get more opportunities to interact and the handful of die hard fans we still have don't get slapped in the face with the fact that their favourite game is slowly and painfully dieing every time they log on. The mod and the game lasts longer before it will eventually go down some time hopefully in the distant future, and we all have a ball playing our favourite game like the glory days in the mean time.

I really can't see any grey areas here guys. Pointing out reasons people are leaving is like splitting hairs, on the surface of it all it boils down to player interaction 99% of the time.

Personally I'd like to see the mod compacted down. Way down. Like super mario N64 down. Only a few systems for each house, but have them sculpted out of pure win that reflects the capabilities of our dev team. Keep the ideas, but keep them short and sweet.

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[Scumbag]

To find the right anwsers you must ask the right questions. The 4.85 mod had around 20 devs. It was the best mod of the series on moddb iirc. Check the readme from every version to convince yourself.

Now for 10 points, what is the right question?

[Zayne Carrick]

How many devs .87 had?