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Abuse of Power Complaint to Admins Via Bretonian War Cabinet/BAF
Offline Alley
06-01-2013, 02:09 PM,
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(06-01-2013, 02:06 PM)Altejago Wrote: Still sore Alley?

Don't worry, I'd probably have done the same Cool

tbh I don't really give a shit, it's their loss not mine. though I'll be extremely surprised if they do nothing at all because this is like 10000x worse than what I did

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Offline Omicron
06-01-2013, 02:14 PM,
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Moral: Bases are evil.

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Offline FallenKnight
06-01-2013, 03:34 PM, (This post was last modified: 06-01-2013, 03:39 PM by FallenKnight.)
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@jonnaffen747, I have some things for you:

- It may looks like a small and meaningless thing but, why there is "BAF" at "Bretonian War Cabinet/BAF"? Dont get me wrong but BAF is NOT the War Cabinet...they are part of it and they cant do anything without the approval of this Cabinet. Excuse me but I find your thread's name as provoking towards the faction "BAF|" cuz you are accusing and stating that its the faction that are abusing their powers. Why havent you used "Bretonia War Cabinet/BPA" for example? Or "Bretonia War Cabinet/BMM? Or Gateway?
I dont find this thread name to be very appropriate cuz all this gona fuel the theory of "BAF" doing something wrong "again".

PS1: Just to inform you in case you dont know - War Cabinet consists of multiple factions (mostly all lawfuls in bretonia) and they are all officials. None can do anything without support of the entire Cabinet in which case means the support of Bretonia. Before any actions there is voting which cant be ignored. Once the Cabinet have reached a majority of votes only then inGame/inRP actions can be taken, according to the RP.
Blaming Summer is equal to blaming entire Bretonian Community...and this is not exaggeration.

PS2: The quick actions of the lawful forces (inRP) are totaly legit (inRP) according the rumors and the evidences. Building such a base (lv4 with a lot of platforms) in such a crowded sector and being unable to properly control it is only and only your prolem. Your OORP actions of shifting IFFs (being testing or for fun) are gona reflect as your "character's" inRP actions.
All of us are taking responsibility with our actions and if you dont admit that then perhaps you are not giving a try to RP properly or in short - to be ready to witness the fruits of your mistakes.

PS3: Now to add some important laws from Bretonian charter of interstellar law which clearly states the right of bretonia lawfuls to act:
>1.5 Hostile Entities
The following entities, factions and organisations are considered to be responsible for direct attacks on the Realm, and are to be treated with due contempt and reprisal:
Corsairs..................................................Gaians.......................................................Farmers Alliance
Hogosha.................................................Lane Hackers.............................................Liberty Rogues
Mollys.....................................................Reaver Mercenaries....................................Delinquents (//Pirate ID)

Kingdom of Gallia:................................EFL Oil and Machinery................................Gallic Junkers
Gallic Metal Service.................................Gallic Royal Navy........................................Gallic Royal Police
Il-de-France Shipping...............................Solar Engineering


>5.4 - Base Operational Regulations
The following regulations are expected to be consistently and permanently observed by all station owners, in regards to their installations. Failure to comply with these regulations may result in the structure'€™s siege and destruction. Regulations are as follows:
  • No Hostile entities (see: 1.5 - Definition of Entities) may be permitted to land on the station. Authorities may request evidence of docking permission logs at any time to confirm this. (Changing base IFF can count as 1.5 hostile entity, leading to KOS)
  • No station may leave their docking rights unrestricted - '€œdefencemode 2'€ - due to potential abuse by unlawful parties, until such a time as modular software is developed to allow the 'blacklisting' of troublesome individuals and organisations.
  • All stations must be accessible at all times to all Bretonian law enforcement agencies; this includes the BAF|, BIS| and BPA).
  • All bases must be fitted with sufficient evacuation equipment to prevent the loss of life of residents and crew, should the base become compromised via circumstances artificial or natural.

    Or in short -> If you break anything mentioned in the RP Laws...your base gona be wiped out and if the evidences carry a weight...early notice is not necessary to be given. Your base would be destroyed on sight if you do a mistake. Informing you would not be neither appropriate in RP nor OORP (making you go and turn it hostile and start to troll)

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jonnaffen747
06-01-2013, 03:54 PM,
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Uhm and again the same as yesterday hm?

Quote:Blaming Summer is equal to blaming entire Bretonian Community...and this is not exaggeration.

I never blamed Summer Name me an evidence where I blame him? We two talked on Skype and no result camed out, also this thread happend.

Quote:All of us are taking responsibility with our actions and if you dont admit that then perhaps you are not giving a try to RP properly or in short - to be ready to witness the fruits of your mistakes.
Nah, this is same as :
When Your pirating on a Lane and I'm a LN Fighter and goin to call navy via Skype. And you shoot me while the time without RP in reason : You could have alarmed ´navy dai!

Quote: PS3: Now to add some important laws from Bretonian charter of interstellar law which clearly states the right of bretonia lawfuls to act:
>1.5 Hostile Entities
The following entities, factions and organisations are considered to be responsible for direct attacks on the Realm, and are to be treated with due contempt and reprisal:
this is just crap. This base never had an unlawful IFF just BHG and BPA, if you Count BHG to unlawful, fine.

Quote:The following regulations are expected to be consistently and permanently observed by all station owners, in regards to their installations. Failure to comply with these regulations may result in the structure'€™s siege and destruction. Regulations are as follows:
  • No Hostile entities (see: 1.5 - Definition of Entities) may be permitted to land on the station. Authorities may request evidence of docking permission logs at any time to confirm this. (Changing base IFF can count as 1.5 hostile entity, leading to KOS)
  • No station may leave their docking rights unrestricted - '€œdefencemode 2'€ - due to potential abuse by unlawful parties, until such a time as modular software is developed to allow the 'blacklisting' of troublesome individuals and organisations.
  • All stations must be accessible at all times to all Bretonian law enforcement agencies; this includes the BAF|, BIS| and BPA).
  • All bases must be fitted with sufficient evacuation equipment to prevent the loss of life of residents and crew, should the base become compromised via circumstances artificial or natural.
Oh well you think the Terms weren't met as it's time of Destruction hm lets check again the list :

Was it Licenced luke ? - Yes surely.
YOU HAVE CHANGED IFF TO BHG WITHOUT ASKING ME BEFORE ??? - Yes sorry here is the Password so you can Change it back as it was given as a term from the WC.
OMG LUKE YOU NOOB YOU KILLED A DAMN TRANSPORT? - Accidentally as I was testin the platforms on my Bomber to see where them fit at best.

And The base was allowed to defend the gate heavily vs pirate. To decrease the pirate rate bretonia wide. It should be like an 3rd BHG Home in Manchester. All was legal, Fully legally what I've had done. And as it was originally designed as a BHG Base I see no reason that it should not stay that way, becuz there was no inrp Agreement for BPA IFF Set. Just summer asked me to let it BPA on Skype former 1 month ago. and i said okay i can do that fine. But some days Ago i changed it back to BHG and then it gone blown up?

Where's your Problem?
What've I done wrong?
Ah ye I've done a mistake Sanction me for that punish me. But we are humans. And Humans make mistakes. And as it just happend 1 time and didn't happend again..

I would like to add that to this post :
Quote:1.10 Player who is violating a server rule can be warned in the game or on forums. If the player does not ignore the warning, does not repeat the violation, and tries to reduce the negative consequences of what he/she did, this player would not be sanctioned.

I didnt got warned by summer? No warning nothing....
Not even any inRP Agreement was met... not even war cabinet decided what i should say to this?

What I want to say, This all didnt needed to happend, if summer talked to me before he is goin to act like he did Sad

The only one who got damaged, Is me. For nothing. Are you all happy now?
Offline Thyrzul
06-01-2013, 03:57 PM, (This post was last modified: 06-01-2013, 03:58 PM by Thyrzul.)
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Do you realize that 1.10 is for server rule violations, not inRP House Law or contract breaches?

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jonnaffen747
06-01-2013, 03:58 PM,
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Maybe, but my english is not that perfect to understand this fully, but I think so why?
Offline Thyrzul
06-01-2013, 04:01 PM,
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Then what 1.10 has to do with all of this? You made mistakes inRP, complaints were made to the authorities inRP, your base was removed inRP. A server rule regarding the breach of server rules has nothing to do with it.

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Offline t0l
06-01-2013, 04:05 PM,
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More importantly, how is this an abuse of power? The base was destroyed for inRP reasons.

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jonnaffen747
06-01-2013, 04:10 PM,
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It wasn't there were no inRP reasons , the only reason was it accidently shot 1 Transport as it was testing it's defense grid ...

and summer had just the Password inRP to Change iff but he abused it to destroy the base

I think thats abusin dont you think so :?
Offline Thyrzul
06-01-2013, 04:21 PM,
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(06-01-2013, 04:10 PM)jonnaffen747 Wrote: It wasn't there were no inRP reasons , the only reason was it accidently shot 1 Transport as it was testing it's defense grid ...

At least two different transports, at least three times overall, that is how much I personally know about yet. You sure were there, you can't deny it. If I'd be a Bretonian authorial, testing defense grid on innocents would be enough reason for me to put an end to it.

(06-01-2013, 04:10 PM)jonnaffen747 Wrote: and summer had just the Password inRP to Change iff but he abused it to destroy the base

He had access inRP and he used this access inRP. Regardless of what he used it for, it was not an abuse.

(06-01-2013, 04:10 PM)jonnaffen747 Wrote: I think thats abusin dont you think so :?
Nope.

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