Golly, maybe you should get a whole new line, nop? Seriously, from all the snubs, Onuris is the only sexy one. (Not saying Council snub line is any more sexy, but that's an other topic.)
Keep working on this. Even if this doesn't make it into the Order shipline or even into the mod I'm interested to see what will come from it since you've got a solid start so far.
The big problem is that people keep comparing it to the Order VHFs and their Bomber. Those were based on a vanilla order ship which was based off of the Liberty Navy Defender.
However, if you look at the Onuris and the Hathor, Order ships which are not based on any technology from liberty, you will see that they are very curved and sharp like this one.
Yes, I know, "But the Onuris's wings go forwards and this one's go backwards". Okay, and? It's a different ship. Different ships serve different purposes and their wings may go in different directions. Take a look at the liberty's light fighter and their VHF's. Do the LF's wings go in the same direction as the VHF's? No, they don't.
People keep acting like a ship is supposed to look like a slightly modified version of some other ship from the same line. If all the ships looked like modified versions of the same basic vanilla VHF, the game would be extraordinarily boring.
Take a look at the Junker's Gitano. It looks nothing like the other ships of their line but it is still clearly fitting.
Take a look at kusari's bomber, compare it to their VHF. They look nothing alike, but both still clearly fit their line.
Take a look at the order LF and the order VHF's and bomber. They look nothing alike, but they all fit quite well.
Take a look at the Union Corse's Light Fighter and compare it to their Heavy Fighter. They look nothing alike, but they still fit in the same line quite well.
Ships don't have to have look the same to fit the same line, they only need the same style of construction and texturing. Don't compare my fighter to the Order VHF, because that was based on a liberty ship. Compare it to the Onuris, which, like my ship, has curved bird-like wings, is curvy and sharp, and not shaped like a box with triangles like the other Order snubs.
And, as I said, it wasn't originally intended to be an Order ship, so it might not fit perfectly as one, but it already fits closely enough that just a few changes to the body to make it slightly less round, will be enough.
Seems I have to make it plain obvious to you. Your model has nothing in common with The Order.
You compare your "thing" to Onuris but yet you fail to notice that Onuris has MORE IN COMMON with Nephthys than it has with that random thing of yours right now. Let me explain you how exactly: Cockpit of Order snubs had its neck removed, thus integrating the exact same piece into rest of the hull. Frame is shortened Anubis/Nephthys middlesection with space below made for a Order-looking engine. Wings of our VHF/bomber were too huge for a LF, therefore different part was used which even still has the same angle as rest of our snubs.
Now, let's get to your thing. What looks like it is supposed to be a cockpit, resembles nothing I saw on discovery. The only way to salvage that particular bit is to exchange it with Patriot/Liberator front. Middle part provides nothing fammilar to Order/Liberty and engine is lacking - I cannot comment on whatever you put in there. The wings are the biggest problem here: Incredibly overcomplicated for straight-draw wings of BOTH Light Fighter and VHF/Bomber. Do you understand me how your thing does not fit Order at all?
Hathor is upgraded version of Zoner "Conference" gunboat and currently serves little-to-none resemblance to Order snubs and/or caps. Do not compare The Order to Kusari as those two have nothing in common with. Still, Chimera and Ku bomber have MORE IN common than your thing with Order ships. Look the "wings" and cockpit on each of Kusari ships - they feature the same concept even if shaped differently.
(10-24-2013, 09:36 PM)Omicron Wrote: Your ship lacks anything that would resemble an engine.
(10-24-2013, 09:36 PM)Omicron Wrote: Not going to happen as long I am leader.
(10-25-2013, 12:28 AM)Omicron Wrote: Don't try making it into Order ship
(10-25-2013, 01:52 AM)Omicron Wrote: I see no simmilarities between your project and Onuris, sorry.
(10-26-2013, 12:45 AM)Omicron Wrote: and engine is lacking
Do you not know what WIP means? There is no engine yet, this is not a complete result.
You have said so many times "I don't like the engine" and "Where is the engine".
There is no engine yet, this is a WIP.
It sounds like the only thing you're trying to do is insult this and put it down. I think you should just stop posting in this thread because so far all you've said is basically "i hate your model throw it away do something else".
I understand, I heard you the first time, you don't like it and you don't think it fits. Saying that over and over again doesn't accomplish anything else, just allow me to enjoy myself and make my ship. If you hate it so much, then wait until it's finished and give your speech to the developers pleading to them not to include it into the game.
That's fine, you don't have to like it, but you've made that clear already and posting a few times every day to let me know how much you hate it doesn't help anything.
Thank you for your opinion and goodbye. You are free to like and dislike things as you please, but stop trying to smother me with your negative opinion.
With first second this appeared on this forum, you opened yourself from feedback concerning your creation. If you cant take it, you should had not posted here in the first place. Labelling it "Order" will get you more criticism from my side, since I fly those ships most of my disco time. If you cant understand how Order shipline (which is the case since you ignored totally my arguments) is supposed to look, drop it.
(10-26-2013, 10:04 AM)Omicron Wrote: If you cant understand how Order shipline (which is the case since you ignored totally my arguments) is supposed to look, drop it.
Can you at least let him finish the project first >_>
Maybe it will be Order, maybe not. I think the title was just saying how he thought it looked like.
The rare sub-species of human that gives out info that nobody actually cares about...
(10-26-2013, 10:04 AM)Omicron Wrote: With first second this appeared on this forum, you opened yourself from feedback concerning your creation. If you cant take it, you should had not posted here in the first place. Labelling it "Order" will get you more criticism from my side, since I fly those ships most of my disco time. If you cant understand how Order shipline (which is the case since you ignored totally my arguments) is supposed to look, drop it.
Why don't YOU drop it?
You've already explained how much you don't like this ship quite a few times. I have heard you. I am open to opinions, whether a person likes or dislikes this model, but I don't need someone posting several times a day about how much he thinks I should throw away my model and not make it.
I don't need over 9000 posts from you telling me how much you hate the model, that sort of feedback is not helping, especially with you saying the exact same thing every single time you post.
The model isn't done yet, it's called a WIP for a reason.
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