To Admins, TAZ, OSI, Phoenix, Zoners - Let's talk about caps

[Sabru]

What about this: As a sole exception due to to the nature of Freeports, Zoners do not have the right to FR5 anyone, but they MAY engage any non-transport ships (P-trans excluded) within 10k of one, provided there is RP justification.

Thoughts? Too abusable?

NO!

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[Trogdor]

Hahaha, I think you hit a nerve, Laddie. Heaven forbid we do anything that might interrupt all of that peaceful trading.

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[Highland Laddie]

What about this: As a sole exception due to to the nature of Freeports, Zoners do not have the right to FR5 anyone, but they MAY engage any non-transport ships (P-trans excluded) within 10k of one, provided there is RP justification.

Thoughts? Too abusable?

NO!

Do you have, perhaps, a more elaborate opinion on the idea...or is this gonna be the typical "Don't touch my Zoner!!" attitude we can expect with any suggested changes?

What particularly don't you like about the suggestion?

Hahaha, I think you hit a nerve, Laddie. Heaven forbid we do anything that might interrupt all of that peaceful trading.

Ya think?

[Sabru]

What about this: As a sole exception due to to the nature of Freeports, Zoners do not have the right to FR5 anyone, but they MAY engage any non-transport ships (P-trans excluded) within 10k of one, provided there is RP justification.

Thoughts? Too abusable?

NO!

Do you have, perhaps, a more elaborate opinion on the idea...or is this gonna be the typical "Don't touch my Zoner!!" attitude we can expect with any suggested changes?

What particularly don't you like about the suggestion?

Because the FR5 system for zoners actually works, in giving a modicum of control. im sure the other officials would agree. why would we want to trade something that works, for something that is vague and abusable by the 'bad' section of the zoner populace.

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[Trogdor]

Yeah, it works in that it prevents conflict, sure. And I'm also sure other officials would agree, because you're the ones using that power to make things nice and easy for you to trade unhindered.

Why would you trade that for something else? Gee, I dunno. Because you ought to be considering other peoples' fun besides your own? Nah, that's just silly.

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[Pavel]

Zoners shouldn't have caps at all in the first place. Trying to justify leftover from Discovery's early non-RP days is meh.

Remove zoner caps (and caps from other factions which shouldn't have them, as Garret said)

[Lonely_Ghost]

Just give Nephil 2mil base armor, 3x CMs, 4x flack turrets, and rest-cruiser's guns for shooting back. And it's job going to be run, but no fight. Peacefull carier. Also, make it completely useless in combat, and missions making.

And keep Aqu. as a combat carier, which still could be usefull, in case of some conflicts, and leading defensive forces, covering running Nephils.

[Trogdor]

I think some of you may have missed the part where I said

Note: Where the other thread was a discussion of Zoners in general, I'm hoping to have a discussion here mostly about the Zoner capital ships and their practical ingame purpose.
The admins have spoken - the ships aren't going away, and neither is the faction. Unless you have a constructive suggestion pertaining to this topic, I don't want to hear from you. Thank you.

If you don't have any suggestions regarding how the ships might be used ingame, kindly refrain from posting, so we don't end up with another 10 page thread filled with bickering over whether we ought to have them in the first place.

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[Jansen]

Just a friendly reminder from your lovely neighborhood Admin.

1.2 Trolling or harassing other members of the community

Stick to the topic and stay serious, if you dont want to contribute to the whole thing, then go post in Flood or dont post at all.

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[SnakThree]

Can admins give numbers of how many Zoner Capital ships are currently owned in game? I remember that being a feature of server statistics and was a excellent way to determine which ships were most popular ( Sabre in 4.85 )

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