Zoners - why they do exist?

[Timmy]

Well, Liberty took the FP in Magellan after the GRN began to base their assaults from there. Although that was an IMG base, not a Zoner one.

By the wish of IMG, which makes little sense, but for some reason this kind of thinking being supported. Anyway, Freeport in Bering is still there and have been forever. Freeport in Tau 29 too, even though GRN is right next to it, and since Kusari have surrendered, GRN have full right to either take it for themselfs or demand Kusari to take control of it. But none of that is happening.

The mistake is not with the inter-house ZOners, but with House players who think they can simply re-define systems that are meant to be wild Borderworlds into quasi-Housespace.

If all the systems that are mentioned in the OP were treated as wild, lawless, extremely dangerous areas that are beyond control, THEN Zoner Freeports (and other independent stations) would suddenly make sense there.

The Zoners did nothing wrong there.
So they should not be in the crosshairs at all.

Fair point, but still, what about freeports that were used during wars and now are right on the edge of the side they were screwing?

[The Savage]

@Timmy IMG is in quite funny situation, since Gallia knows that IMG trades with everyone, but they are also semi-dependant on IMG, as it comes for resources (otherwise, GMS or IDF would get all IMG bases in Taus). That's why, I believe, Gallia uses Kusari as a trade proxy with Liberty and Bretonia. But that's my thought.

Also, good point. But again: original Freelancer Houses were not supposed to wage war against each other. Liberty's biggest backbone is the fact they are dependant on resources from other houses, as they have no ores to offer (according to the original lore).

[Pavel]

Zonerzonerzoner + Wild West in one. It's like Christmas came early this year. Thanks Fluffy )))


On a more serious note, zoners shouldn't be treated as one faction. Omicron Theta freeport zoners have completely different diplomacy than Tau-37 ones.

[Jack_Henderson]

Well, Liberty took the FP in Magellan after the GRN began to base their assaults from there. Although that was an IMG base, not a Zoner one.

By the wish of IMG, which makes little sense, but for some reason this kind of thinking being supported.

I suggest you read the roleplay (search: [Fall of Freeport 4] or [Fall of FP4]) and educate yourself on the topic before you are posting, and then we can discuss it if you still think that it does not make sense.

[The.Wizard]

My sincere question is: what stops House Authorities to ban Zoner stations from space between houses?

Becouse its space BETWEEN houses,they don't have authority there.

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[The Savage]

Zonerzonerzoner + Wild West in one. It's like Christmas came early this year. Thanks Fluffy )))


On a more serious note, zoners shouldn't be treated as one faction. Omicron Theta freeport zoners have completely different diplomacy than Tau-37 ones.

But then, why House Authorities wouldn't simply eridicate them? No one likes guys who has their own neutrality and actually indirectly violates the national laws. As far as I remember, only Kusari and Gallia completely ignore Freeport laws.

My sincere question is: what stops House Authorities to ban Zoner stations from space between houses?

Becouse its space BETWEEN houses,they don't have authority there.

Lemme correct you:
- Bering and Hudson were actually annexted by Liberty.
- Tau-29 is controlled entirely by Kusari Republic, after Imperial's Tau War.
- Omega-3 is now the sovereign territory of Bretonia, after short-lived Rheinland-Bretonia War.

Conclusion: Freeport 1, Freeport 2 and Freeport 6 are no longer in independent space.

[Lythrilux]

I mean tbh nothing really stops the Houses declaring Zoners hostile on a whim, the issue is you can't really target Zoners as a collective.

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[Pavel]

But then, why House Authorities wouldn't simply eridicate them? No one likes guys who has their own neutrality and actually indirectly violates the national laws. As far as I remember, only Kusari and Gallia completely ignore Freeport laws.

The ones caught breaking laws are slapped:

I mean tbh nothing really stops the Houses declaring Zoners hostile on a whim, the issue is you can't really target Zoners as a collective.

[Timmy]

@Timmy IMG is in quite funny situation, since Gallia knows that IMG trades with everyone, but they are also semi-dependant on IMG, as it comes for resources (otherwise, GMS or IDF would get all IMG bases in Taus). That's why, I believe, Gallia uses Kusari as a trade proxy with Liberty and Bretonia. But that's my thought.

Don't quite get how is Gallia dependant on IMG any more. It's 100% free to take their resourses at any wished time. They have Kusari to supply them with pretty much anything now. And Rheinland seem to be favouring Gallia much more then Liberty, at least from RP that have been done by official factions in both houses.

I suggest you read the roleplay (search: [Fall of Freeport 4] or [Fall of FP4]) and educate yourself on the topic before you are posting, and then we can discuss it if you still think that it does not make sense.

Then why exactly all fully justified attempts of GRN to take control over Java and Holman, at least on the stage of docking check iRP, are not yet happening? Not because you refused to do it for your own reasons?

[The Savage]

@Timmy, I pointed out they do not want IMG to be against them. We aren't talking about poor half-wit miners, but about a very powerful and independant non-house organization, which can fight pretty well in asteroid field (remember Rheinland Military and GMG?), not to mention they are able to poke their Crayterian and Libertonian friends. As I stated before, they need proxies, as Gallic resources are slowly no more.

It takes time and resources to train qualified miners, so the Crown doesn't really want to bother with IMG. Add up the fact that's Sirian tech and it would take some time to make station operational for Gallic miners and engineers.