That moment when...

[Lythrilux]

yeah screw the admans!

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[Karst]

"TEEN

Content is generally suitable for ages 13 and up. May contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated gambling and/or infrequent use of strong language."

- quote from Freelancer case

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[Ryummel]

"TEEN

Content is generally suitable for ages 13 and up. May contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated gambling and/or infrequent use of strong language."

- quote from Freelancer case

https://www.esrb.org/ratings/ratings_guide.aspx


yep

[The Savage]

The problem is, Discovery isn't Freelancer anymore. I don't think that's argument in such a case. :x

[|nfrared]

Bored much?

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Shard - The Faceless One

[Thyrzul]

Well, you can count the changes and differences between the two if you want, but unless we implemented rainbow coloured ponies, cute pups and kittens, perhaps even Barbie instead of more guns, bigger ships, and additional factions enough for at least one more house in order to have more options and toys to shoot eachother with, I don't think this mod developed towards fitting the needs of the kind of audience 'E' rating would fit more than 'PG-13' since Vanilla.

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[Sylvie557]

The problem is, Discovery isn't Freelancer anymore. I don't think that's argument in such a case. :x

It is a mod based on a T game, should assume the community is such. Plus discovery goes into a lot more details on the darker side of stuff(drugs and slavery as an example) much worse than any cussing.

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|| Aoi Iseijin |Aoi || Junker Marauders JM|- || MEMES- ||

[The Savage]

discovery goes into a lot more details on the darker side of stuff(drugs and slavery as an example) much worse than any cussing.

That's why I made a meme about it. XD Killing, trafficking, drug dealing and slavery, even abusing others is okay.

But then, try to curse.

I don't think this mod developed towards fitting the needs of the kind of audience 'E' rating would fit more than 'PG-13' since Vanilla.

+1

[Papa Oomaumau]

You know what is driving this so-called 'censorship' has nothing to do with 'morals' or 'standards' - it has to do with class. It has to do with respect. It has to do with dignity.

Have you heard people argue when they have to control their language - say a business or institutional setting?
It tends to be generally respectful, but more importantly it tends to result in, well, results.
Why?
Because curses tend to act like barbs or darts - they draw blood and raise the ire of whomever you aim them at.
Their use in group settings also steals the dignity of the person wielding them as much as the person they are aimed at.
And you can get by just fine without them - their prohibition is not hindering your ability to RP.

Spend some time in other gaming communities, and you'll see how people figuratively piss all over each other, punctuated by curses and other shout-downs.
We're not immune from that here but anyone who he spent any appreciable time in a non-restricted gaming community has probably seen more arguments devolve into the cesspool - while in language-restricted communities there tends to be more respectful interaction between players - on the whole.

This community, as has been stated previously, while it has rotten fruit, is more or less respectful and dignified - again, there are always exceptions, but on the whole we're a pretty good bunch.
Ask yourself if this would continue to hold true if the language rules were removed.

In the end, having been here since '08 and knowing lots of mods/devs/admins over the years, I've heard enough from those that enforce and drive the rules that I get it.
Sure you could loosen the rules for in-character speech and RP (and frankly, to some degree they do) but where does it end?
Where's the line between IC and OOC? - cause it's not black and white.
And if I'm an admin, I'd just as soon see everyone meeting the same level of respect - and make sure that while you can insult someone, you can't steal their dignity by saying that they do 'sexual things' to goats, or the like.

If you absolutely have to cuss - go elsewhere and let it rip.
If controlling your language is so hard - or so demeaning to you - You have issues that a rule change ain't gonna fix.

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[Thyrzul]

Typing out an entire wall of text is quite a waste if you already miss the point in the first sentence. Well, for the sake of it I read all what you wrote, and nearing the end you got a bit close to the actual point of the matter here, well, almost. The issue of some of us isn't that we cannot be uncivilised to eachother ooRPly, but our characters cannot be played out to their full extent because they can't be uncivilised to eachother inRPly despite their character may or may not involve major features suggesting such. This miss renders at least about 75% of your post irrelevant.

The lack of a fine line between IC and OOC should be pretty much the reason why context should be taken into account when evaluating violation reports related to cussing, not just outright forbidding words because they look bad and/or are listed among the seven you should never say on British TV, etc.

And lastly, respect or lack thereof does not really depend on allowance or prohibition of profanity. I can still send you (or anyone else) home to create offsprings with your (their) maternal ancestor without using bad words and at the same time providing no constructive feedback to explain my insults and disrespectful comment. I could just as well provide more detailed and explained feedback which actually carries a point (or more), stressing my arguements with a few swear words, if it would be allowed. Correlation between cussing and lack of respect debunked.

Again, it's not a "relation to eachother" issue, this is a roleplay restriction issue.

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