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Request: Bretonian Carrier Remodel
Offline Caelumaresh
06-23-2016, 12:23 AM,
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This thing is freaking sexy

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Offline Durandal
06-23-2016, 01:33 AM,
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It's decent. I don't think it would hurt to add more detail for a model of its size (you've got a lot of large flat faces on there and overly repetitive tiling screams 90s) but the design itself is nice.

As for what Haste said, I don't think you're going to be able to model a distinctly Bretonian looking capship and avoid that shape. The current silhouette of the model doesn't look too difficult to balance as is.
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Offline Thunderer
06-23-2016, 10:46 AM, (This post was last modified: 06-23-2016, 10:54 AM by Thunderer.)
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Updates on the development:


Link to p3d.in

I think it looks good and I like the "cannons". I think the barbettes above should be removed, though. They look nice, but in reality they would limit the turrets' firing arcs. While there is more detail and the ribs are much better than on the previous model, I liked the general shape of the "shell" better. Don't get me wrong, it looks good, but the last one had some kind of a Victorian aroma stuck to it. Maybe this one is just too large. It reminds me of this:

[Image: maxresdefault.jpg]

[Image: 396AUfe.png]
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Offline FallenKnight
06-23-2016, 11:20 AM,
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The model is getting better. These barbettes looks fine Thunder and won't be a problem to limit firing arcs. You know turrets on some ships already can fire "through" their hull armor so if the devs want to - then can make same adjustment here. Tbh these details represent how much more armored the ship is supposed to be inRP.

As for the shell you are right.
[Image: vZOCEuf.png]

1) The current model have this detail in front of the triple hangars - hangar control room. Its missing from this new model. If Unlucky can add it will fill this flat gap below and also give more space for details.
2) The frontal rigged hull of the shell should be made like "stairs".

Overall I really like the model. Not my type of a space ship but definitely looks bretonian - and thats all that matters.
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Offline Unlucky_Soul
06-23-2016, 01:28 PM,
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Did some tweaks here and there. Lowered the overall height of the ship to eliminate the "BANANA" problem.Added Bridge to the bottom part. Changed the profile of the hump, less rounded.


Link to p3d.in
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Offline Thunderer
06-23-2016, 01:35 PM,
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I like it. Maybe just an armour plate or two on that isolated engine.

[Image: 396AUfe.png]
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Offline FallenKnight
06-23-2016, 01:48 PM,
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Nice improvement.

There are few minor details to point out:
[Image: 2LUY4aW.png]

1) Can you extrude the head like show in the image? Current one is small and looks like someone slapped his face with a brick. The proportions of the ship (mid) and (rear) areas are fine but the head is too small. Making it bigger will represent more quarters and better proportions for the full model.
2) Can you add antennas below the control room? It makes sense considering that might serve as communication array control. Also looks better.
3) The current "control room" is small and looks like a cherry on a cake. Simply make it longer like in the image - it wont look so odd.

Overall this is really decent model and the only thing needed are small details which are up to you. But since this is bretonian ship - texturing it will be the hard part. You know bret caps have 4-5 textures, some are meeh but look nice if used on "details" areas. Just explore the dunkirk details and what type of textures were used and try to recreate that in this model in order to make it "vanilla" colored.
Good work Soul!
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Offline Thunderer
06-23-2016, 02:06 PM, (This post was last modified: 06-23-2016, 02:07 PM by Thunderer.)
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1) I disagree. Firstly just because of my taste, because the head is one of my favourite parts there. It looks badass with the heavy jaw and protracted teeth. It also looks more robust, metallic, mechanical. Secondly, it resembles the prototype in Southampton, and I think it would be logical to take at least something from it.

2) I agree.

3) I agree.

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Offline Gagadug.
06-23-2016, 02:51 PM,
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I really like the model, but still somehow the back engine feels somewhat fragile to me.
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Offline Unlucky_Soul
06-23-2016, 03:10 PM,
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(06-23-2016, 02:51 PM)Gagadug. Wrote: I really like the model, but still somehow the back engine feels somewhat fragile to me.

Thats being worked on

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