Quote:I'd request a different consequence than "automatic 6 months ban". Furthermore, I do not understand thet part: "The minimum warning level is 10%"
Does that mean that the warning level increases in 10% steps?
I think it means that the minimum warning level is 10%.
A.k.a. you can get 11%, 23%, but not 8%. There is nothing about the increment rate nowhere in the OP.
What about 0%? I'm at 0%...
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Forum punishments vary from case by case basis. Are you going to place these warnings 10% at a time, which are basically 10 strikes, or are you going to let mods figure out how much what is worth. If it is the later, it can result in situations where people will ask ''why did X get Y for Z and I got Ķ''
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Quote:I'd request a different consequence than "automatic 6 months ban". Furthermore, I do not understand thet part: "The minimum warning level is 10%"
Does that mean that the warning level increases in 10% steps?
I think it means that the minimum warning level is 10%.
A.k.a. you can get 11%, 23%, but not 8%. There is nothing about the increment rate nowhere in the OP.
I think the different interpretations in here and the questions that could be asked about any of these makes it clear that there has to be some clarification and a lot more thought spent onto this system.
It is good to have the forum warning level used.
It adds transparency and a way to see "Oh, I should change something, it's not going into the right direction" - something that has been critizised in earlier sanctions. So, yes, generally good call.
What is needed now is: A clear system that defines how the levels of warning work.
Without too much thinking, just an idea:
> go in 10 % increments generally (so that 53 % , 77 % and 99 % is not possible)
> small infractions of the harmless kind are +10 %
> medium and not completely harmless are +30 %
> hard infractions that are harmful are +50 %
> Every X month (2? 3 months?): -10? -20? (I hope this can be done automatically. Would be impossible to adjust manually)
I think you should also clarify whether your sensible system of "ok, take a 24 h break" remains parallel to this system. I would strongly agree to keep both. The "take a break" short bans (for those who just go overboard in a discussion), plus the forum warning to keep an eye on "longer time" tendencies.
Don't tie your own hands by setting "100 % => 6 months ban". That's not clever, in my opinion. Just say that "a ban up to 6 months", depending on what happened, is to be expected. Why? A spammer that ups his warnings by 10 harmless things does in my opinion deserve a "6 months only rp posts, longer than 400 characters". Someone, who is really harmful, should be open to the 6 months full ban. But there should also be flexibility, like 2 months, etc. As I said, don't tie your hands unnecessarily.
Keep at it. This can become a good addition to improving tone and generally respectful behaviour towards each other - something the community is not exactly great at.
Minimum that can be given is 10% and myBB only handles integers over the range 1 to 10, where 1 equates to 10% on forum so only 10, 20, 30 etc. is possible.
The situation will still need 3 or more admin/mod inputs and 10% is the minimum, it is possible that more problematic material may get >10%. You may still get 24 hour bans etc. they will just leave a visible legacy in the warning system. That facet is not changing this is more to aid monitoring.
The minimum "last three months" means that if your behaviour warrants it and you are warned on 1st July it will last until October 1st. If you subsequently get warned on August 1st, the July 1st one will still last to October 1st and the new August one will last to November 1st.
(08-07-2016, 12:37 AM)Jack_Henderson Wrote: Without too much thinking, just an idea:
> go in 10 % increments generally (so that 53 % , 77 % and 99 % is not possible)
> small infractions of the harmless kind are +10 %
> medium and not completely harmless are +30 %
> hard infractions that are harmful are +50 %
> Every X month (2? 3 months?): -10? -20? (I hope this can be done automatically. Would be impossible to adjust manually)
Keep at it. This can become a good addition to improving tone and generally respectful behaviour towards each other - something the community is not exactly great at.
+1 ^
And small suggestion from me :
> if member that have any warning level had not received and sanction or increased his warning level will have automaticly lover his warning level by 10 % , sorta reward for not cosing trouble and proving he behave .
This will create a situation where certain players are looking to have the high warning level and still stay in-game or on the forums. It rewards trolls with a badge of honor for all to see.
It also seems a bit arbitrary and open to complaints of Bias. What forum behavior warrants a 10% warning? Who do you need to piss off to get it to 50%?
A stop light....Green, Yellow, Red or a Three strikes system, might work just as well, without giving people a numerical goal to aim for and stay under.
This will create a situation where certain players are looking to have the high warning level and still stay in-game or on the forums. It rewards trolls with a badge of honor for all to see.
It also seems a bit arbitrary and open to complaints of Bias. What forum behavior warrants a 10% warning? Who do you need to piss off to get it to 50%?
A stop light....Green, Yellow, Red or a Three strikes system, might work just as well, without giving people a numerical goal to aim for and stay under.
I believe that the assumption you made in your first paragraph is invalid. I've always had a warning level of 0% since that was first used in the forums, but I can't see the warning levels on other players' accounts, so other players could have 90% warning levels, but I'll never know it unless they post about it and I happen to read that post.
Edited for clarity purposes.
This will create a situation where certain players are looking to have the high warning level and still stay in-game or on the forums. It rewards trolls with a badge of honor for all to see.
It also seems a bit arbitrary and open to complaints of Bias. What forum behavior warrants a 10% warning? Who do you need to piss off to get it to 50%?
A stop light....Green, Yellow, Red or a Three strikes system, might work just as well, without giving people a numerical goal to aim for and stay under.
I believe that the assumption you made in your first paragraph is invalid. I've always had a warning level of 0% since that was first used in the forums, but I can't see the warning levels on other players' accounts, so other players could have 90% warning levels, but I'll never know it unless they post about it and I happen to read that post.
Edited for clarity purposes.
This will create a situation where certain players are looking to have the high warning level and still stay in-game or on the forums. It rewards trolls with a badge of honor for all to see.
It also seems a bit arbitrary and open to complaints of Bias. What forum behavior warrants a 10% warning? Who do you need to piss off to get it to 50%?
A stop light....Green, Yellow, Red or a Three strikes system, might work just as well, without giving people a numerical goal to aim for and stay under.
So , some bloke want to have lets say 95 % warning level and risk banning just that he can take a screen-shot of it and brag in flood "i have 95 % warning level" ?
I don't believe anyone is that dumb , but if i am wrong he is welcomed to do it , but he better be prepared to be absolutly calm for hole a month or he just rig 6 Month bann to him self !
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