Royal Navy Foreign Legion - Information

[Epo]

Non GRN| GRN? I approve it. Good luck people! Bring activity!

May I ask how many peeps are backing you atm?

[Thyrzul]

Gallia is made up of a host of ethnicities, not all stem from noble bloodlines or pure gallics but are still loyal to the king. We are those people those that gallia may class as lower citizens.

Gallia is made up of gallics. Gallia had literally no connection to any other ethnicity during the first 25 years of the Second Gallic War. No non-gallics in Gallia during those 25 years.

You still say there were non-gallics fighting in that war at that time. How? Explain.

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[Enkidu]

I assume Gallia has citizens of all of the Francophonie aboard, just as Bretonia probably has a lot of commonwealth citizens.

Niger, Benin, Mauritania, Vietnam, bits of India, Syria, Papua New Guinea, all examples where people could come from outside France. It makes sense too, because a genetically homogenous population would die out. Gallia is also huge and each planet would have differentiated substantially in regions over a thousand years, in language, biology and local culture. Are Spanish the same as Visigoths?


Gallia should have a huge black population.

[Victor Steiner]

Perhaps, yet i imagine there would be those people in Sirus who agree with Gallia and her goals and thus want in. Yet they are not citizens. If my information is correct, during the first world war the Germans activly tried to recruit Irish POWs for the German army, the idea being that because they didn't like the British they would fight for the Germans and thus acheive Irish independence at the war's end. It didn't work but perhaps the Gallics could try something similar.

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[Thyrzul]

Perhaps, yet i imagine there would be those people in Sirus who agree with Gallia and her goals and thus want in.

The Foreign Legion is a decorated detachment of the Gallic Royal Navy seen as expendables by the higher ups and gallic nobility it has served as a supporting role to the House of Gallia for centuries. Usually in any confrontation the Foreign Legion are the first to be sent in to a battlefield.

The Foreign Legion is made up of personnel from a variety of ethnic backgrounds who have sworn loyalty to the King and DeFrance family, most of which are not of pure gallic blood.

Major action saw them take part in the Second Gallic War against the Council, and since the opening of Gallic Borders to Sirius the Foreign Legion has been primarily tasked with border patrols and local fighting against Gallic enemies in the Taus.

No. Contact. Between. Gallia. And. Sirius. Until. 818 AS / 734 AGS. (Minefield breach.)

No. Non-gallics. In. Gallia. Until. 818 AS / 734 AGS.
No. Non-gallics. In. Gallia. Until. Six (6). Years. Ago.

Second. Gallic. Civil. War. Started. In. 794 AS / 710 AGS.
Second. Gallic. Civil. War. Started. Thirty (30). Years. Ago.

Second. Gallic. Civil. War. Went. On. For. Twenty-four (24). Years. Without. Contact. Between. Gallia. And. Sirius.



I seriously can't explain it any simplier.

The oldest any Gallic Foreign Legion can be inRP is six years old, without much significance during the majority of the Second Gallic Civil War, else it contradicts already estabilished lore. Not opinions or interpretations. Already. Estabilished. Lore.

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[ONIKS]

Need to pin Thyr's message somewhere. Very useful and very simple.

[Laura C.]

No. Contact. Between. Gallia. And. Sirius. Until. 818 AS / 734 AGS. (Minefield breach.)

No. Non-gallics. In. Gallia. Until. 818 AS / 734 AGS.
No. Non-gallics. In. Gallia. Until. Six (6). Years. Ago.

Second. Gallic. Civil. War. Started. In. 794 AS / 710 AGS.
Second. Gallic. Civil. War. Started. Thirty (30). Years. Ago.

Second. Gallic. Civil. War. Went. On. For. Twenty-four (24). Years. Without. Contact. Between. Gallia. And. Sirius.



I seriously can't explain it any simplier.

You can actually. You can write it in simple sentences and not this stupid way which makes it harder to read and understand in the end. You are definitely right but I no need to express your frustration this way (because it is what this type of typing is used for, it never made any text easier to read or understand, it is just passive-aggresive way how to tell anyone you consider him totally stupid).

Generally, I think there might be misunderstanding in semantics and difference between ethnicity, nationality and citizenship. Of course there are lot of ethnics in the Gallia just like in any other house because look how France/Great Britain/Germany/United States look even today, so like Tanith suggested, there will be lot of different ethnic groups in every house including Gallia. However all of them has same citizenship. Operating with "pure gallic blood" does not make sense because after centuries of mixing people, it is just term which few aristocrats or right wing nationalists can in theory brag with (and lot of them probably won´t even have "pure blood line" anyway).

So there is no problem with Foreign Legion consisting of "personnel from a variety of ethnic backgrounds". But all of them still had to be Gauls by citizenship, nothing in lore suggest there were any "noble classes and lower classes" when it comes to citizenship. And like Thyrzul summed up, there was no way there could be any non-Gallic personnel until six years ago when minefield was breached.

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On a ragebreak. Or ragequit. Time will tell.

[Arbs]

What thyr is trying to say is that Gallia was still isolated when the Second Gallic Cvil war happened. Threfore, a foreign legion would not make sense, because there were no foreigners from sirius, just gallic people.

In other words everyone in Gallia back then was a Gallic themselves, because they were still siolated from the rest of sirius.

The war started 30 years ago and went on of 24 years. Only by the end of the war did gallia make first contact with the rest of the sirius which was 6 years ago.

Therefore a foreign legion could only be created in a maximum of 6 years ago and could not participate in a war that happened way -before- that. At most, 24 years before that.

I'm not sure what is so hard to comprehend here and why this is taking two forum pages to explain.

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[University Of Cambridge]

So then change the RP to a foreign Legion that was created 6 years ago, but only now has enough members to feild in a combat capacity. Although the 'pureblood' side of things is odd, i'd argue that class is more relevent.

All that said though the Lore makes is very hard for you to carry on with this Idea. To be honest with you i'd support it since the GRN hardly every show up.

So for all the ranting and raving about how this idea blows established lore to hell, if it brings back activity to Leeds and the war, i say go for it.

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[Thyrzul]

Little correction to what @Arbs said: The civil war isn't over yet, it did last in the past six years too, it's just that this relatively little amount of time is the only period during which any GRN Foreign Legion forces have ever had the chance to exist and intervene.

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