Regarding the Order Council

[Orin]

Hm... Tell you what, tomorrow I'll try working up an unofficial strike force division. One vote from there would make it 7.

(It'll involve the character with heavy Rheinland ties, as we talked about, Tenacity. Diplomatic help as well.)

[Tenacity]

Hm... Tell you what, tomorrow I'll try working up an unofficial strike force division. One vote from there would make it 7.

(It'll involve the character with heavy Rheinland ties, as we talked about, Tenacity. Diplomatic help as well.)

you dont have to have a faction to do this, i think we're getting far too many unofficial factions in the order already.

Talk to swiss about the diplomacy thing before you start RP'ing it as well =P

---

[Eternal]

I'm still here , and I'm still interested in the posstion.

---

[stewcool]

My stand is where tenacity's stand is.

He goes by the same setup as I do mostly.

---

[Tenacity]

My stand is where tenacity's stand is.

He goes by the same setup as I do mostly.

I do?

I thought you keep to yourself, while I take the blunt of the yelling for everything that goes on in the order :D

---

[stewcool]

Yeh and I stand behind and watch!

Thus keeping to myself but most of your opinions follow what I go by most the times.

EDIT:

122nd| is independent haha it's just me really

I just make it seem massive and unofficial. But I mainly represent the 122nd Order Independent Guard.

---

[Heartless]

no, hold on now.

Can we please hold off on the unnoficial factions?

I don't want random people making a faction to get a spot on the council, it just makes no sence, they may nto be qualified, and it's not fair.
Sorry fort he boldness, but it's true.

the 122nd is one person only, stew.

So I was thinking.

1 Bs|, 1 42|, stew, tenacity and one more. That's 5 and that I really think is enough. I think Eternal would fit, but maybe a heavier forums presence would help?

So my idea is:

1 Bs| (me)
1 42nd (probably the leader)
Tenacity
Stewcool
Eternal

I think these are the most qualified people and no one else really would fit.

I don't care about a faction v. indie balance, I want that conflict gone, it has nothing to do with this, nothing. We're all part of the order and wether or not we're in a faction or not should not have anything to do the decisions the council will make.

Note: Bs| will be undergoing a name change, just giving you all a heads up, but please let me know on that 5 council member idea.

edit-

This doesn't mean everyone else will be excluded. Using the Order roster Tenacity made, everyone on there will be like a general assembly. Although the council will have in rp power, everyone else can put up suggestions etc. So just cause you're not in the council doesn't mean you don't have a say.

---

SwissScorch --> Heartless

[stewcool]

As long as my fleets current status and what it does doesnt change to drastically im fine with the idea.

---

[ryoken]

@ others, cam in particular - there are diplomacy talks going on between the order and numerous other factions right now, soon enough it will be made public.

See this crap annoy's the hell out of me. Deplomecy that only a select few know about? that is crap, and is the reason people get pissed off with faction's. I and many other indie's will not follow any decision made by a select few, who think they are better then other's,and know how the order should advance without a say in it. This is how the whole ball of crap started before Christmas, and now you are doing it again.
It has been posted by admin's that any decision "the people in charge" make does not have to be followed, nor can you make them, or do a dam thing about it when they go against it.
Just seeing this so called private talk's BS has got me wanting to go rogue,and start killing order for stupidity.:angry:

---

[Heartless]

This entire council thing is for those who choose to follow it. If you don't, then if we want, we could in rp find a reason to go after you, this is all in rp, you don't like it then don't get involved. We're not forcing anyone but yeah.

The whole diplomatic thing will be worked out in rp within the council, there really isn't much done anyways.

---

SwissScorch --> Heartless