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Offline Primus Avatar
02-06-2009, 07:22 PM,
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' Wrote:The extended intro is stupid. Why would the nomads send a supership far outside their normal territory to destroy the star of a race of primitive beings who are already trying to kill themselves?

I pretend that the extended intro is a bad joke.

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Totally agreed. The extended intro makes no sense. The option where Coalitions conquers Sol is far more entertaining anyway.

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Offline Varyag
02-06-2009, 07:35 PM, (This post was last modified: 02-06-2009, 07:41 PM by Varyag.)
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I would say that because of how common the nomads and wilde are in populated space that people would indeed know about why they are there and also of what happened to Sol after the sleeper ships arrived in Sirius. The houses would seek this info out if it was there to be had, especially in the case of Rheinland who suffered such a deep infestation.

For the Hessians, they have to deal with Wilde in their home system as well in NB daily. I would say they are well versed in their lore.

This is, of course, just my opinion and open to debate.


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Offline darthbeck
02-06-2009, 07:39 PM, (This post was last modified: 02-06-2009, 07:40 PM by darthbeck.)
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' Wrote:The extended intro is stupid. Why would the nomads send a supership far outside their normal territory to destroy the star of a race of primitive beings who are already trying to kill themselves?

I pretend that the extended intro is a bad joke.


if you remember from the sp campiagn, the dom kavosh had a huge empire that spanned most of the galaxy. whice the nomads inheritted. what if the nomads detected the sleeper ships when they passed by a nomad system, and decided to go see where the sleeper ships came from. the nomads find sol and decide that the humans are a threat and send the sun killer weapon...ship...thing. to destroy the sun

it make sense.

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Offline Primus Avatar
02-06-2009, 07:40 PM,
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still doesn't make sense. Why didnt the Dom Kavosh do it then? Why did their creations(Nomads) do something Dom Kavosh wouldn't?

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Offline cmfalconer
02-06-2009, 09:20 PM,
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Quote:The option where Coalitions conquers Sol is far more entertaining anyway.

Of course it is. We're much more entertaining than some blue jellies anyway, and much more talkative.

Kinda wish Treewyrm was here to weigh in on this one, he's so up on Nomad lore it's scary.

As for the SCRA, it's in our faction canon that one of the High Command travelled to Sol (twice actually) to see how our Coalition brethren were holding up with the Alliance squashed. He came back to Sirius a haunted man for the things he saw there.

This takes into account both sides of canon, using the Coalition's win as well as the squishies' death-dealing of the entire system.

It's somewhere in the stories or message dump, but I don't have time atm to dig through 80+ pages of lore.

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Offline teschy
02-06-2009, 09:30 PM, (This post was last modified: 02-06-2009, 09:44 PM by teschy.)
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' Wrote:still doesn't make sense. Why didnt the Dom Kavosh do it then? Why did their creations(Nomads) do something Dom Kavosh wouldn't?

Cause the nomads are the guardians of the Daam K'vosh. Hunting dogs, so to speak. And the K'vosh were so advanced, they couldn't be bothered to take down the humans themselves, they just sent their minions. Or maybe, the Daam K'vosh disappeared, and the nomads were only following their last orders.
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Offline Treewyrm
02-06-2009, 10:19 PM,
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Since some people have repeatedly pointed me at this thread in Skype I've decided to give a bit of elaboration on the subject.

Did Coalition win? Yes. Did Nomads came shortly after? Yes. Now there lies a quite interesting bit: where those the same one finding themselves in Sirius? ... ... Nope. Both conceptual art as well as storyboard for the introduction suggest they were of different branch, whichever you may want to call them, with those in Sol having different look, a rather aggressive one. Curious, eh? Now let's move on: where there human survivors? Yes, and likely some part of Coalition survived as well. Not those on Earth but those on the border, around Pluto (and perhaps it's moons) and beyond (Kuiper belt, Haumea, Makemake). Perhaps deep rim station(s). But that part is up to SCRA I suppose, since it's their field.

The reason the nomad part was cut out was that developers felt it has shown the enemy too early in the game (despite overwhelming positive reaction when the intro was shown at E3), not because they wanted to alter the story entirely, the cut part was supposed to be shown later - Freelancer wasn't supposed to be the only game in the series as you should already know, alas no continuation followed. If some of you recall the extended (as it is called on youtube) is actually labeled as "Original introduction" in all documentary material supplied on Bonus DVD I have shared a year ago here.

Opportunities? A hell of a lot if taken precautions and proper approach. The nomad ship arrived via some portal technology. Who knows if survivors made their way to follow it. That's some very wild material for roleplayers out there into that kind of stuff. There is a lot of top grade material to pick up, and it's only better with the age.

I hope that clears it up. Plus something to improve and build upon. Now going back into my cave. Peace. Have fun!
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Offline Heartless
02-06-2009, 11:03 PM, (This post was last modified: 02-06-2009, 11:15 PM by Heartless.)
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' Wrote:the order knows =P the one ship that left after sol was destroyed, as far as I know, was crewed by the people who started the order of cincinnatus in liberty once they arrived. That order had kept itself secret until the nomads finally showed up in sirius and the nomad war began.

Actually I'm uncertain about that. Yes it's in that extended intro, but there's a reason it wasn't put into the intro in the game. Those long texts about the history of Liberty and this cincinnatus thing is just superstition, not hard, solid facts. That's the reason I didn't include any of it into the Order| faction post, it's not full proof, just a concept that may not be real.

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Offline Derkylos
02-06-2009, 11:09 PM,
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Everyone uses OOC knowledge all the time, most of which is just plain wrong. Ever heard someone call Corsairs "cannibals"? Big misunderstanding, as there is absolutely no lore that supports this logic...merely rumors of small numbers resorting to such in the far history.

Nearly every faction has it's vices and secrets, but most of these are unknown to outsiders (at least in RP).

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Offline tansytansey
02-07-2009, 01:02 AM,
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' Wrote:still doesn't make sense. Why didnt the Dom Kavosh do it then? Why did their creations(Nomads) do something Dom Kavosh wouldn't?

Don't know about you, but I've never heard of an extinct race rising from the ashes to kill a comparatively worthless race like us. There are no DK left in the universe.
The nomads were also put into sleep by the DK before they left. And Humans had inhabited Sirius long before they awoke.
If the Nomads really did have a suncrusher, then why are Humans' still the dominate species in Sirius?

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