BAF posted in your feedback thread for the Dunkirk, and we were not all that positive. It made no sense for the reasons mentioned by others here. To me, the only way you'd have a battleship from Bretonia is if it were a 50 years old, older version of the Dunkirk, such as the Victoria (re: Battleship Hood).
You however made the RP at 16 years ago, which is shortly before the Kusari war, and correct me if I'm wrong, but Liberty didn't join Bretonia in the war against Kusari, so not really allies.
And, based on your using of the ship in Bering, while Bretonia is fighting a war for survival in NL, we have saw fit to file a request to GMs for a restriction to be placed on LN indies from abusing our tech to fight Rheinland unlawfuls.
If you are lucky, it will be a simple "You are only allowed to use this against Gallia" or some-such.
We were not impressed by the Bering use of the tech. BAF specifically did not use Liberty tech in Omega 3.
(06-03-2019, 08:45 AM)Laura C. Wrote: but at that thime there was not Bretonia-Liberty alliance so...why would they give battleship
Clearly you did not read the faction info page as it answers your question, but for sake of this conversation the Battleship was given in 810 A.S. during the Rheinland Liberty War, and I verified with multiple members of this community that Bretonia was in fact prospering and was not in any wars at the time.
I am confused, what Liberty-Rheinland war are you talking about? The one which happened in Discovery mod took place between 817-823 (precisely, first skirmishes started in 816, but war was officially declared in 817).
(06-03-2019, 08:54 AM)Markam Wrote: It made no sense for the reasons mentioned by others here. To me, the only way you'd have a battleship from Bretonia is if it were a 50 years old, older version of the Dunkirk, such as the Victoria (re: Battleship Hood).
(06-03-2019, 05:59 AM)Kalhmera Wrote: Republic of Liberty with its own "Victoria" class Battleship.
this should clarify that.
(06-03-2019, 08:54 AM)Markam Wrote: And, based on your using of the ship in Bering, while Bretonia is fighting a war for survival in NL, we have saw fit to file a request to GMs for a restriction to be placed on LN indies from abusing our tech to fight Rheinland unlawfuls.
If you are lucky, it will be a simple "You are only allowed to use this against Gallia" or some-such.
We were not impressed by the Bering use of the tech. BAF specifically did not use Liberty tech in Omega 3.
you can submit anything you like, I have been using what was given to the player. Should anything change I will have to adjust and do what I must to continue the RP, and trust me I will continue the RP.
(06-03-2019, 08:54 AM)Markam Wrote: BAF posted in your feedback thread for the Dunkirk, and we were not all that positive
really? BAF did or you did? Because I clearly remember just you and thunderer. and nothing official was stated or requested. nothing from Steiner either,
(06-03-2019, 08:56 AM)Laura C. Wrote: I am confused, what Liberty-Rheinland war are you talking about? The one which happened in Discovery mod took place between 817-823 (precisely, first skirmishes started in 816, but war was officially declared in 817).
thats not what I was told, if there is an official lore page that shows what exact dates things took place please link it so I can adjust and make the corrections.
Just as the constant increase of entropy is the basic law of the universe, so it is the basic law of life to struggle against entropy. - V. Havel
(06-03-2019, 08:54 AM)Markam Wrote: BAF posted in your feedback thread for the Dunkirk, and we were not all that positive
really? BAF did or you did? Because I clearly remember just you and thunderer. and nothing official was stated or requested. nothing from Steiner either,
Three BAF HC members did, one former and two active.
(06-03-2019, 08:54 AM)Markam Wrote: BAF posted in your feedback thread for the Dunkirk, and we were not all that positive
really? BAF did or you did? Because I clearly remember just you and thunderer. and nothing official was stated or requested. nothing from Steiner either,
Three BAF HC members did, one former and two active.
Please do quote where they wanted me to stop the RP, or asking me to give the ship back, it was just a simple conversation.
(05-07-2019, 07:48 AM)Markam Wrote: So I would say you could potentially justify acquiring a to-be scrapped Victoria, which is out of date as a design and not a risk in terms of military technology being stolen due to its obsolete systems which the new owner would likely replace with Liberty based systems.
seems Markam was ok with it, and I did say its a victoria class ship
Just as the constant increase of entropy is the basic law of the universe, so it is the basic law of life to struggle against entropy. - V. Havel
I've replied to that thread with the assumption that pointing out critical flaws in the story would make you reconsider, not ignore them. This battlegroup makes about as much sense as making a KNF Bismarck and citing old Ku-Rh friendship as the basis. The earliest signs of any Li-Br alliance I am personally aware of is the treaty of Curacao from 817 AS, and that was already during the ignition of the Tau conflict.
(06-03-2019, 08:56 AM)Laura C. Wrote: I am confused, what Liberty-Rheinland war are you talking about? The one which happened in Discovery mod took place between 817-823 (precisely, first skirmishes started in 816, but war was officially declared in 817).
thats not what I was told, if there is an official lore page that shows what exact dates things took place please link it so I can adjust and make the corrections.
You can check for example Timeline of the Discovery Universe on wiki (wiki is outdated so it´s hard to get there information about new stuff, but serves quite well for history). Alternatively there is a war declaration thread from 2009, so ten years old, and considering we have year 826 ingame now, it is obvious that the war could not be going on in 810.
(06-03-2019, 09:32 AM)TheSauron Wrote: I've replied to that thread with the assumption that pointing out critical flaws in the story would make you reconsider, not ignore them. This battlegroup makes about as much sense as making a KNF Bismarck and citing old Ku-Rh friendship as the basis. The earliest signs of any Li-Br alliance I am personally aware of is the treaty of Curacao from 817 AS, and that was already during the ignition of the Tau conflict.
ill quote spectre for this response, he makes valid points that should be heard again.
(05-06-2019, 05:23 PM)Spectre Wrote: I'm interested in seeing where this goes. While I will admit that Bretonia likely wouldn't give out their tech to other folk regularly, Liberty has been an ally of Bretonia's for the longest time, even before Disco's canon took effect. Both houses primarily speak the same language, have roughly the same culture (one is obviously more capitalist while the other is considerably more authoritarian), and have historically, even before the exodus, have good allies of each other for centuries. I'd find it believable that at least one Bretonian battleship would make it into the Liberty Navy.
Plently of player ships already stretch the canon anyway, so I don't see why this can't either.
(06-03-2019, 09:33 AM)Laura C. Wrote: You can check for example Timeline of the Discovery Universe on wiki (wiki is outdated so it´s hard to get there information about new stuff, but serves quite well for history). Alternatively there is a war declaration thread from 2009, so ten years old, and considering we have year 826 ingame now, it is obvious that the war could not be going on in 810.
I will look into this, thank you!
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