Discovery 4.91 Patch 12 Balance Changes [12/6/2019]

[diamond1]

While i'm not particularily pleased with the changes in the scatterguns, i was never good with 'em. I suppose i mostly stuck to a dual-nova setup. but now, to be fair, i might try letting go of using that and sticking with a snac and nova instead to try and get some neat kills. ( At least, until i die excessively due to ping clearly showing it misses. )

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[Lythrilux]

Was it though? That feels subjective, saying this as someone who initially advocated for the nerf.

It was always known to be a problematic weapon, it just existed for a reason that we solved long ago but due to the fact that it existed we couldn't just remove it.

Had we the knowhow to do on the fly weapon damage adjustments in 2010, we would have.

Most of the concerns I had seen were more for lore reasons (>shooting anti-matter) and how it wasn't very bomber-like - not that the weapon was broken or gameplay breaking in any regard. Granted, I felt like it was problematic because of how it coupled with the respawn timer. It's been reduced since the nerf, so I don't feel like it's an as big problem anymore.

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[Karlotta]

Looks like SHFs will be useless again as soon as there is 1 enemy bomber present.

A better way to make bombers less useless against smaller craft would be
a: to increase their gun projectile speeds.
b: to decrease SNAC damage enough to not be instakill on an armored ship, and increase refire rate to make the weapon more useful.

Also, fighter gun range should be increased so they become more useful against large slow targets.

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[Kauket]

Was it though? That feels subjective, saying this as someone who initially advocated for the nerf.

It was always known to be a problematic weapon, it just existed for a reason that we solved long ago but due to the fact that it existed we couldn't just remove it.

Had we the knowhow to do on the fly weapon damage adjustments in 2010, we would have.

Most of the concerns I had seen were more for lore reasons (>shooting anti-matter) and how it wasn't very bomber-like - not that the weapon was broken or gameplay breaking in any regard. Granted, I felt like it was problematic because of how it coupled with the respawn timer. It's been reduced since the nerf, so I don't feel like it's an as big problem anymore.

you do know that like majority of the game is highly unrealistic and bends the lore right

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[Nepotu]

It was always known to be a problematic weapon, it just existed for a reason that we solved long ago but due to the fact that it existed we couldn't just remove it.

Had we the knowhow to do on the fly weapon damage adjustments in 2010, we would have.

Remove the SNAC for good or keep it as it has been since its birth ffs. It was a game mechanic that required the most skill and yet yeeted it. It's like a bazooka won't kill a man because was not designed for that, but still act normally against armored vehicles. Fly a bomber with SNAC and try to kill things with it. You will see it's not as easy as everyone believes to be.

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[Thunderer]

Remove the SNAC for good

Quoted and saved for later purposes. May I use it on my sig? ))) joking

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[Thexare]

Remove the SNAC for good

Glad we're on the same page for a change.

[Markam]

Snac gets a massive buff, and Nepotu is not happy.

If anything it has been buffed a little too much here, the larger SHF's will certainly be facing a considerable challenge to be useful now.

Plier and Shuttle may well reign supreme as fighter-bomber hybrids, they can now at least SNAC bombers trying to SNAC them.
Scale down of other SHF's maybe?

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[Nepotu]

Remove the SNAC for good

Quoted and saved for later purposes. May I use it on my sig? ))) joking

Do whatever ya want. As for removing the Snac...they already hurt the bombers, so why not hurt them even more. Remove them, remove bombers. Snubs will have no fear of being instaed anymore. People are just too dumb to understand even after explaining why this was a idiotic move in the first place

Stop swearing, please.~Markam

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[Nepotu]

Snac gets a massive buff, and Nepotu is not happy.

If anything it has been buffed a little too much here, the larger SHF's will certainly be facing a considerable challenge to be useful now.

Plier and Shuttle may well reign supreme as fighter-bomber hybrids, they can now at least SNAC bombers trying to SNAC them.
Scale down of other SHF's maybe?

Ofc I am not happy. This shouldn't have happened in the first place. Geez

Again, stop it with the swearing. ~Markam

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