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Offline Lord Caedus
09-22-2024, 09:09 PM,
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It seems you're missing the point that you've had the better partt of a year to realize that you need to move your base before it had a siege declared on it. The Bundschuh didn't have a problem with where your base was located before because it wasn't less than 10km from their base, so they had no reason to attack it. The system layour got changed months ago and everyone that had a base in system had the option to move theirs because of it, a prime example being another base that had ended up almost touching Hammersee. Expecting everything to exist as if nothing changed is a failure on your part, you've had more than enough time to either request your base to be moved by the admins or for you to talk to the locals about the issue with your base.

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Offline Uknown
09-22-2024, 09:51 PM,
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(09-22-2024, 08:49 PM)SwiftWing Wrote: ...SNIP...

Following how it was worked once ...
If a system is fully reworked and your RP can help with it, you can freely ask for movement of a base, since Sigma-15 was fully reworked then you could ask a free move on your base, that was done if i am not wrong on 5.1, its been a lot of time, where you has been all that time?

Sadly, once a Siege is declared you cannot make such request (as it will increase the siege time and will not do anything good to your base...)

Bundschuch has some enemies, those are the following:
ENEMIES:
Corsairs, Unioners, Rheinland Authorities, Rheinland Corporations

Man, try all your resources and media available to attract attention, put a bounty on their heads, pay for defense, get help from whoever you want, deal with the attackers, at siege time, you can have plenty of options at your disposal ...

What you said about Insurance is right, but now the siegers take a cost (using Borer Rounds cost and cost greatly), so both have some suffering....
If i were the one giving insurance i would take, only to return at most Core 2 bases with some random modules built in there so you don't start from scratch but need to get things going all over again, and rest is up to you, insurance should be made to recover some of the credits or partially a base so don't hazzle with rebuilding it all over again, not to fully recover a damn base i sieged and getting it back again and again and again ¬¬

I would tell you what you can do and you must choose one ...
  • Ask Lawful Enforcement with SOS call ... Send a message and wait till they respond ...

  • Ask Friends to hand in against your attackers, even a distraction in time are precious time they would be doing nothing ... pack a full unit of bombers and land hell to them, or bring small swift capitals to get it appart from your base.

  • Deal with the attackers, talking is how people understand, open a comm channel and try reach an agreement

  • Buy transports and load them and on no siege timers, move all things from your base if you deem it lost so you only lose material and time, but not your money, your assets and all of the cargo onboard ... this is a thing,

  • Put a ridiculous high bounty for any kills over the period of siege against them ...

  • Some other people prefer lose a base, and just rebuilt it in other place continuing on the story ... or saying something happened

  • Build damn Weapon Platforms, those will not stop the attackers but will eat energy from their cores making them less shots per time (and since now they are mirrored meaning you put 2 platforms in one slot in the opposite site or so) can make it better defense if placed tight

  • Request help from enemies of them ... Call the Corsairs, Unioners, bribe them, offer something in return or something ...

Those are some, but there a plenty of things, instead of crying, asking insurance or a move long time after the system changed ... and on siege timer already declared

So it would be better start working on one of them or everything at a time, take all your chances and join too in the defense of your base and with some people that would be a huge clash of sides ...

And another thing, admins did not cause the issue, your leniency of not taking care or something goes wrong there ... if you has a base you have responsabilities, and should know how this work this
Since siege already started then is gonna be literally zero possibilities to make it happen, your options right now are written above, if your base survive (i hope it do) then could write a RP about moving base or so, but since it was your responsability (man, check the navmap at least and see if something is wrong it your base and so so you could ask it timely ago)

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Online Lemon
09-22-2024, 09:52 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-22-2024, 09:52 PM by Lemon.)
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(09-22-2024, 06:14 PM)SwiftWing Wrote:
(09-22-2024, 06:01 PM)Karst Wrote: You had time to supply it for months and months since the last system changes, but not to request a move away from the hostile "AI base" until it became a problem?

Interesting.

First of all, I never had a Problem with the base being there tell the Bundschuh declared a Siege warning on my base. never had a problem tell now.

and me and my friends have been trying to keep it stocked. when I'm not falling over half Dead I try to get on and use my barge to keep it stocked.

Honestly I work Insane hours. hardly any time to play anything, all I think about is rest Sad
Yeah it was a mistake not to realize you need to ask for a move at time of system change, or guys feeding it to warn you you should - you'd 100% get it - just talk to the sieging guys before you get it sorted, I'm sure they aren't spiteful like that, admins probably can't move it now after siege is declared during it anyhow
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Offline Capt.RedLegs
09-22-2024, 10:26 PM,
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I can assure you from recent experience that you will receive Zero sympathy from Admins with regard to POB sieges being under threat due to "RP consequences".
Say farewell to your base and move along. Right or wrong the siege will be allowed in these circumstances without any conscientious review of other factors.
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Offline TheSauron
09-22-2024, 11:04 PM,
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(09-22-2024, 09:51 PM)Uknown Wrote: Build damn Weapon Platforms, those will not stop the attackers but will eat energy from their cores making them less shots per time (and since now they are mirrored meaning you put 2 platforms in one slot in the opposite site or so) can make it better defense if placed tight

Minor nitpick, but weapons platforms do not drain weapons power. They will only strip away the attackers' shields. They're a very powerful force multiplier for the defenders, but they do nothing to protect the base by themselves.


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Offline monmarfori
09-22-2024, 11:31 PM,
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The base has been sitting there for months near the Bundschuh base since 5.1 was released, yet no suggestion to move the base was taken until the siege declaration came.
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Offline Tenshi Kuonji
09-23-2024, 12:47 AM,
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(09-22-2024, 10:26 PM)Capt.RedLegs Wrote:
I can assure you from recent experience that you will receive Zero sympathy from Admins with regard to POB sieges being under threat due to "RP consequences".
Say farewell to your base and move along. Right or wrong the siege will be allowed in these circumstances without any conscientious review of other factors.

From there is where players come on as a siege has been done and a message warning was done, he is allowed do as much RP he can, put bounty, do treachery and everything he feels safety for her own interests.

We bring them almost all options but i have seen no action from him, so...
I dont see he is trying to help to his installation, by this time even by their message they got,

If i were him i would be personally fitting for looking help if choose to defend and if things start going badly i would be doing the empty base project to dismantle and save as much resources it would have (FOW, Wear&Tear and all cargo i consider it valuable for me, all the money, everything possible to save as most as possible...

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Offline Petitioner
09-23-2024, 06:51 AM,
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(09-23-2024, 01:14 AM)SwiftWing Wrote: OORP - Admins Moved the Unlawful Base in the last update to close to my base. not my base moved to close to yours. can I get Time to have ADMINs move it?

It is only fair since I did not cause this problem, I have had my base for at least 5-6 Years and always help Unlawful and lawful corporations pretty Much Equally. CORPs have to pay for it, But I donate Free loads to Unlawful to help them in there difficult times . on a fairly recent time as a way to help out.

Requesting to have a Peaceful option opened up for Discussion if you would be so kind. and see if we can find some way to work together Smile

Swiftwing...

Since you posted your ooRP post in an RP thread, I'm going to respond to it here, @SwiftWing. Many people have tried to explain this to you before, and it seems it's been fruitless, but I am going to try again.

Discovery is what is known as a "roleplaying community", which means that we play the parts of characters (as in a story, like a novel or a film), rather than simply acting as players in a game. This is not a game like Planetside, or Helldivers, or Team Fortress 2, or Starcraft, or League of Legends, wherein the entire conceit of the game is that the ingame universe exists solely to facilitate the mechanics of the game. Rather, the conceit of Discovery is that the game mechanics exist to allow us to roleplay.

In essence, roleplay means acting within the universe, and attempting to simulate the behavior of a real living human, just in a world that is different from the one we live in in real life. It's somewhere between acting and writing. It is a fundamentally collaborative endeavour in that we are all telling stories.



Unfortunately, because it is in fact still a game, there are certain limitations placed on how we interact with the universe. If, in the course of mod development, our star systems need to be changed for lore reasons or gameplay balance reasons, in order to keep the game fun to play so that we're all encouraged to continue writing our stories and playing the game and living these roles together, we as players have to adapt to that, and with an unspoken nod of mutual understanding, adapt our stories and the ways we play the game to these new changes. This is how we maintain our kayfabe, our sense of immersion, by suspending our disbelief at the ways we have to adapt our roleplay.

You have been affected by (I refuse to say "been a victim of") this exact sort of mod change. You have had many options to deal with this, as mod changes detrimentally affecting POBs and their owners is something that the staff team has long been very understanding of and thus provided free POB relocations for.

It was not only your responsibility, but your obligation to pursue these options, so that your player-owned base could continue to operate in a way which made sense within the lore of the game world -- in this case, specifically with the dynamics of Sigma-15. You failed to do this out of laziness and a lack of consideration for (or understanding of) the roleplay environment. Now you are suffering the consequences of your lack of attentiveness.



This is not unfair, and this should not have been unexpected. Regardless of your free aluminum (a practice of yours I've never personally observed or heard mentioned), you have to understand that a group of politically-minded, anti-corporate, anti-government terrorists such as the Bundschuh would not take kindly to a Daumann installation right outside of their own base. Yes, your base was at those exact coordinates first, but you seem to think the exact coordinates matter when what really matters is how that coordinate position relates to the other objects in the system. Again, you had ample opportunity to address this matter.

The Platform siege of your base is not intended to grief you or victimize you or drive you off the server. It is us, the Platformers, playing out the role of our characters within the roleplay universe. If anything, your lack of ability or willingness to respond in kind is functionally griefing us (as well as the rest of the server, which only ever benefits from more roleplay interactions), which is why the siege of your base will progress as stated within the roleplay thread and the rules-mandated ooRP siege declaration post.

I would suggest that, if you don't intend to attempt defending the base, you instead get a load of 5ks (which I know you have) and grab everything useful off of your base so that you can cut your losses as a player. I would further suggest that the next time you attempt to build a base, you do so with some consideration for the roleplay environment in mind, and monitor said environment as well as any relevant mod changes so that you can interact with other players in a way that is healthy according to the intents and fundamental concepts of what this community is supposed to be.



I sincerely hope this post helps you out in some way.

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Offline Capt.RedLegs
09-23-2024, 06:52 AM, (This post was last modified: 09-23-2024, 06:55 AM by Capt.RedLegs.)
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Those would be "the circumstances" to which I referred.
I stand by my statement without apology, especially since the point was merely derided, and not meaningfully refuted.
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Offline Petitioner
09-23-2024, 07:05 AM,
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(09-23-2024, 06:52 AM)Capt.RedLegs Wrote: @ Tenshi Kuonji


Those would be "the circumstances" to which I referred.
I stand by my statement without apology, especially since the point was merely derided, and not meaningfully refuted.

SwiftWing had something in the area of six months to request a relocation. The window of time in which sympathy, charity, or refraining from blowing up his (frankly, very stupid) POB was appropriate has long since closed. He's had absolutely zero care for, as I said, the unspoken nods we as players give each other to ensure that we can all keep doing our thing in spite of unexpected mod changes. He has essentially actively refused to constructively participate in the roleplay environment. This is not behavior we should be encouraging.

Your bellyaching about "derision" and staunch refusal to consider that every other poster in this thread, and every other poster in every other thread exactly like this one, might have something approaching an instructive point to convey, and insistence that we're actually all just bullies or whatever, shows that you also have no concern for the culture of or intent behind this community.

There's a game I think would suit your mentality far better, and fortunately for you, it's on sale for another eleven hours as of time of writing.

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