I'm afraid your reasons lie more into the technical side of the matter, rather than roleplay.
For example, compare the rheinland weaponry with the liberty weaponry. You want to give 5.88 shieldbusters, perfectly speed synced with Hornvipers, while Liberty stays with their crappy Vengeances and Magma Hammers that barely sync with anything. Sure, Vengeances' speed matches the Imp. Debilitator, but hell, we all know that 8.33's are difficult to use anyways - unless you have missiles or magma hammers, you're gonna curse your days trying to take down a bomber.
Same goes for other factions. Unless you match the speeds of all the weapons in the game, you're just gonna cause more balance issues.
Edit: Also, I've yet to see any inforcard that says that Debilitators are manufactured by Ageira. They were just sold there in the vanilla game, they're as globally civilian as the Flashpoints.
' Wrote:I'm afraid your reasons lie more into the technical side of the matter, rather than roleplay.
For example, compare the rheinland weaponry with the liberty weaponry. You want to give 5.88 shieldbusters, perfectly speed synced with Hornvipers, while Liberty stays with their crappy Vengeances and Magma Hammers that barely sync with anything. Sure, Vengeances' speed matches the Imp. Debilitator, but hell, we all know that 8.33's are difficult to use anyways - unless you have missiles or magma hammers, you're gonna curse your days trying to take down a bomber.
Ahem. I've killed many bombers solo in a Liberator with 2 debs 2 vengeances. Your point is from a purely PVP perspective, and this thread is geared more towards RP. Please take your little argument elsewhere, I won't have you flaming up my thread.
Nighthawk, I really don't see where I flamed your thread, aren't you a bit jumpy now? I've simply stated the fact that in some of the weapon descriptions you've added the 'so they sync better with faction guns' reason, whilst the remaining factions have to do with what they have.
Also, I admire your performance, but not everyone in Liberty flies a Liberator.
As for your claimed roleplay issue about Ageira, I've already stated the fact that there's no evidence suggesting that the weapons are manufactured strictly by them.
' Wrote:Nighthawk, I really don't see where I flamed your thread, aren't you a bit jumpy now? I've simply stated the fact that in some of the weapon descriptions you've added the 'so they sync better with faction guns' reason, whilst the remaining factions have to do with what they have.
I may have misinterpreted the tone of your post, but you appeared to be getting rather hostile towards Jamez. I'm also removing the suggestions for shield busters simply because 'they sync better' so don't worry about that any more. Only the ones that make in-RP sense will remain.
Quote:Also, I admire your performance, but not everyone in Liberty flies a Liberator.
My point wasn't to +1 my own ego, but rather demonstrate that if I can kill bombers with 2 vengeances (and no mines) then surely a fighter with 4-6 can easily do the same. All class 9 weapons now do roughly the same DPS.
For example:
Weapon/Shield DPS/HullDPS
Vengeance MK V/966.28/1932.56
Magma Hammer MK V/1010/2020
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Hornviper MK II/999.6/1999.2
Firekiss MK II/1050/2100
Quote:As for your claimed roleplay issue about Ageira, I've already stated the fact that there's no evidence suggesting that the weapons are manufactured strictly by them.
You must have missed that part in my opening post. Everyone will still have access to Ageria Shield Busters provided they are lawful/quasi-lawful/have ties to Ageria (IE Lane Hackers and GC)
I think there is an overall lack of shieldbusters but there shouldn't be thaat many. Id prefer the outcast alliance be able to use the infernos seeing as the inferno was meant to counter corsair sheildbusters anyway.
But I support the house ones, of course. Id love to see them around.
If we're on about giving everyone a chance to use shieldbusters that match their weapon speeds, why not just keep the debs free for all, as they should be, given that they go around the market a lot, and have 600, 650, 700 and 750 speed debs.
Currently they're 650 and 750.
The IMG for instance, would be suited best with a 700 speed one, as the Vampires have that speed.
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' Wrote:If we're on about giving everyone a chance to use shieldbusters that match their weapon speeds, why not just keep the debs free for all, as they should be, given that they go around the market a lot, and have 600, 650, 700 and 750 speed debs.
Currently they're 650 and 750.
The IMG for instance, would be suited best with a 700 speed one, as the Vampires have that speed.
It's no longer about that so much. It's about it making in-RP sense. Do Ageria deal with Liberty Rogues and Red Hessians now?
' Wrote:It's no longer about that so much. It's about it making in-RP sense. Do Ageria deal with Liberty Rogues and Red Hessians now?
Ah, I see, okay.
Anyways, my personal opinion of the whole argument how not everyone has access to Ageira's shieldbuster tech, I'd actually disagree there.
I think of it more like the whole lot of the Debs circulating the whole market, people selling them, reselling them, etc.
It's not something that Ageira has much use for anymore.
Think of it like an example from real life. Like for example, Nation X is at war with Nation Y.
And Nation Y gets weapon supplies from weapon dealers, and some of those weapons turn out to also be used by Nation X.
Anyways, it comes down to this, I think that Ageira does not have a firm grip on where their weapons go, really.
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