Quote:Having a 'contraband list' is utterly wrong for the Zoners, it being a set of laws, which are directly contradictory to their general libertarianism/anarchism.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the NFZ also a "law" that the Zoners enforce? How about the whole "Don't shoot each other on Freeports" thing, that's a law too isn't it?
Zoners (as a whole) are not anarchist, they are neutral. There's a difference.
Back in the day, when I first had this idea and was showing it around, Gronath (who was around then) raised much the same concerns. These are not Zoners. They were Zoners (and IMG members, but that's beside the point), and, having not exactly taken the whole 'neutrality' thing well, have decided to take matters into their own hands. Hence 'Vigilante'. I don't expect any actions taken by the ZSO (if it ever exists) to be condoned or supported by the Zoners as a whole. Note the lack of the Zoner ID. Zoner tag yes, because there is that loose affiliation of "hey, we were once Zoners". The Freelancer tag wouldn't work because... can you even use the FL tag and the Vigilante ID together?
@Hawkwings; Any laws and regulations the Zoners make are there to preserve their neutrality. They don't make any laws that are not beneficial to them. Since stopping smuggling isn't beneficial, they wouldn't attempt it.
@Zapp; The problem is you're calling yourself the Zoner Sheriff Office. That means owned and operated by the Zoners. If you're ex-Zoners, don't use the Zoner's name. Furthermore, don't use the Zoner tag because it's the same situation.
I do believe Freelancer tag and Vigilante ID can be used together (if a pirate ID can, I see no reason for a vigilante ID not to...but don't take that as fact...)
However, if you are intending not to be Zoners, a few things to bear in mind include: You would (in my eyes, anyways) not be exempted from NFZ violations (just a thought, as most of your ZoI contains freeports, which may even play host to those you would be hunting), and Zoners do not like people basing operations out of freeports (cf: FP 2 and Unioners). Both could negatively affect their neutral status.
IMG (ie, at FP 4), however, may be more accepting of your presence (so long as, again, you do not have a negative impact on their diplomacies...that is, no attacking Rogues or Hackers), as they tend to be less tolerant of contraband (although, most of the interdiction happens in the Taus, where only Outcasts become antagonised...)
With respect to Zoners implementing "laws", primarily, any "Zoner laws" exist to safeguard the non-combatant population which constitutes most of the faction. "No blasters on Freeports" essentially means "Don't bleed on our floor", and the "No fire zones" are to safeguard the integrity of a station (the reason such things usually emphasise good behaviour among capital captains). Contraband lists (in my opinion) fly in the face of the "free trade" ethos which a "Free"port implies ('tho I won't go any further into this, what with the current Council issues...)
Anarchy? Probably. In the sense of no higher governing power, and minimal rules/behavioural guidelines, but not necessarily in the chaotic, disorganised sense that is usually implied by the term...primarily because of the small scale on which the installations are run.
' Wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the NFZ also a "law" that the Zoners enforce? How about the whole "Don't shoot each other on Freeports" thing, that's a law too isn't it?
Zoners (as a whole) are not anarchist, they are neutral. There's a difference.
Anarchists tend to dislike explosions on their front yard as much as any other person.
They are anarchistbertarian.
Anarchism does not mean rampant chaos.
' Wrote:IMG (ie, at FP 4), however, may be more accepting of your presence (so long as, again, you do not have a negative impact on their diplomacies...that is, no attacking Rogues or Hackers), as they tend to be less tolerant of contraband (although, most of the interdiction happens in the Taus, where only Outcasts become antagonised...)
Even the IMG don't seem to mind Cardamine...
I'm sure there were rumours of Cardamine being used on the Hood back in the day, but I'd need more info.
' Wrote:Anarchists tend to dislike explosions on their front yard as much as any other person.
They are anarchistbertarian.
Anarchism does not mean rampant chaos.
I suppose in a sense, that is why the TAZ adopted (stole) the term "Ontological Anarchy".
It somehow seems "less threatening".
From the link:
"But between the lonely awakening of the individual, and the synergistic anamnesis of the insurrectionary collectivity, there streches out a whole spectrum of social forms with some potential for our "project". Some last no longer than a chance meeting between two kindred spirits who might enlarge each other by their brief and mysterious encounter; others are like holidays, still others like pirate utopias. None seem to last very longbut so what? Religions and States boast of their permanencewhich, we know, is just jive...; what they mean is death."
Sorry for the hijack.
Yes.. name change, and a bit of distancing from the Zoners, please, and I'll buttcheek it.
How about ZAP ..Zoners against Pirates ...ooops theres that zoners thing again, or how about Lynch Mob ...bagh its too late in the night or is that early in the morning...
' Wrote:How about ZAP ..Zoners against Pirates ...ooops theres that zoners thing again, or how about Lynch Mob ...bagh its too late in the night or is that early in the morning...
IWS Independent World Sherrifs or IWH Independent World Hunters with a proper lawful tag like BHG
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