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Darkard · (This post was last modified: 07-23-2009, 05:41 PM by Darkard.)

You know what would be good? If there was a FL Hook Command you had to type before you would be allowed to any non-civilian ship by the game.

It would be somthing realy obscure like '/DetachShipClamps 2653 Off' and the only place it tells you the Code is at the bottom of the rules page.

If you try to buy a non-civilian ship it says "The Shipdealer thinks you look a bit clueless and tells you that you are not eligable to buy this ship. He then directs you to <Rules Page> and says you should come back when you have read that."

Anyone who types the code in the in-game chat (Excludes Console Chat) is dropped from the server (Like an F1 disconnect) and thier mesage is discarded.

P.S. Not a 100% serious idea btw

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Tenacity · 07-23-2009, 05:52 PM,

Quote:But I don't respect indie Navy or police, because the people who join the official faction, have gone through the training or questionaire or psycholi- basically, they get accepted into the real deal, where as indie's just go around killing 500 NPC's and feel proud of it, and subsequently buy a Navy ID or whatever.

The only thing faction members go through upon joining is kissing enough ass to gain rank for the ship they want.

I've seen independents with far better RP and characterization than faction members (I am one, at that), and I've also seen faction members with better RP than indies. It isnt what tag you have in front of your name that matters, it's how much effort you put into your character.

teschy · 07-23-2009, 05:55 PM,

It's not about ass kissing, Tenacity, but how would you know anyway, seeing you never joined a real faction.

sawtyss · (This post was last modified: 07-23-2009, 05:59 PM by sawtyss.)

Ok... So you mean that indie Navy is OORP basically? WHY is that?
Factions are something available on our server, and I love the idea... But who said that and indie navy officer is just a vigilante with ID?

I do agree that theres lots of dudes who don't know anything about RP-ing and join navy and make **** of this server... Yea... But honestly there are some that try to RP out there... I've got a Navy gunboat char, and never have I attacked someone cause he was a pirate, or because I felt like it...

It's hard to rp navy, and I feel I'm doing it the best I can... I rarely shoot people... Most of the time is peaceful escort, or talking, or anything but not shooting... Please don't put me in the same basket as these "OMG! DROP CARGO OR DIE! OR DIE NOW! ENGAGING!" peepz :-/ It really hurts :-/

You mean there can't be any subgroups in Navy? What about guys from different bases? They are subgroups...

And yes I've joined a faction... As you can see I've been in UOG for quite some time... Now I'm in OSI and I know what RPing is about! :-/

Tenacity · 07-23-2009, 05:58 PM,

' Wrote:It's not about ass kissing, Tenacity, but how would you know anyway, seeing you never joined a real faction.

No, but I've run one.

carlabrams · 07-23-2009, 06:02 PM,

Yeah, this is pretty much a case of Peanut making the joke "Zoom" and the point went right by you.

The official factions do not represent all of one kind of player. They may represent a majority of, or a unit of, the generic NPC faction. But - they (and we) don't represent all of them.

For example, I'm one of the BHG| Guildmasters. We have the ability to control what our own members do, due to in RP activities. But if someone wants to become a hunter on their own, they're perfectly welcome to do so as long as they perform, in RP, as a member of the NPC faction would in the circumstances presented. So no docking on Crete or Junker bases with a Hunter ID'd ship.

As for the LPI - I happen to have an 'independant' LPI officer. I work with the official [LPI] tagged members. In RP in game, I simply say that I'm with another precinct. My character acts like an LPI officer would - making arrests, attempting to control contraband, and enjoying his Sunbucks and donuts.

I've also a Liberty Navy Cruiser. The ship isn't [LN] tagged. But she's part of another Cruiser squadron. If I go into battle on the side of the LN, I'll take the orders from the LN commander on scene. But other than that, I'll role play AS a Liberty Navy cruiser because, when I'm in that ship, I AM a Liberty Navy pilot.

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sawtyss · 07-23-2009, 06:12 PM,

That exactly is my point! How can you condemn every Independent because of the actions of the worse part of us?

komet · 07-23-2009, 06:15 PM,

Wouldn't killing off indies. be the rough equivalent to cutting off Discovery's life blood? Sure there are player factions that are directly and indirectly related to the NPC ones, but just because one indie. does something bad does NOT give you the right to go off saying that all indies. are bad, idiots, whatever.

Indies. have, and always will, add to the experience of Discovery. They always bring something new to the table, whether it be new RP, tactics, or even whole new player factions. How do you think something like RoS was started? Or how the various Zoner factions over the time Discovery has been around were created? They were created by people with different ideas who wanted to start something.

Maybe my information is not quite accurate, but as Tenacity just pointed as another example, he went from being independent to starting a whole new faction!

You see, without indies. Discovery would have a hell of a lot less players then it does right now. Not everyone wants to have to conform to the structure (or rules) of an existing faction. People want to be able to choose what they want to do and, as it has been stated before, Discovery is one of the few places that will let you do that and let you interact with other players the way you want to!

In essence, killing off indies. would be the same thing as killing off the server.

Robert.Fitzgerald · 07-23-2009, 06:17 PM,

Non-forum indies are not all bad either - my friend plays here and he avoids the forums for his own sanity. Sometimes I think he has a valid idea there...

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Andrew_Bonesovich · 07-23-2009, 06:34 PM,

Indies are not always bad, a lot of them around are at least decent, or even better than some player faction members.

Quote:Can you justify an independent police officer? No. The police department anywhere would have them arrested, and if they continue after being bailed, they'd probably get a sentence.

However, in DiscoFL, I see independents everywhere. I chose to treat them as stupid freelancers really, and here why, in the real world, they would get arrested.

Complete nonsense tbh, you should stop treating indies like that, the fact they are independent means they are not part of player faction, but that doesnt mean they are not part of NPC faction. There is a difference.

For example, BAF treats indies like "Volunteer corps" or something like that, but not as "freelancing BAFs", thats wrong point of view.

Advice from me: If you are pissed off by awful lolwut indies, get out of Liberty and Omicrons, it helps

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