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reavengitair · 08-12-2009, 01:06 AM,

Well, I think there already is one... but meh.

I might try RPing this.

Altaris · 08-12-2009, 01:14 AM,

As long as i dont see RP story, i vote for NO. Write some nice long RP story.

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...also im a troll, so hate me.

NewOrder · (This post was last modified: 08-12-2009, 03:40 AM by NewOrder.)

I tryed to make this faction had a Forum set up and everthing, but haveing a spy faction just doesn't work with tags, everyone all ready knows your a spy. So for now I have it shut down in a dark corner somewhere.

Its so secret, you cant openly RP it... or your cover will be blown. Only way it could work is for some sort of ID or something.

But if anyone has any ideas? I would gladly support. The forum need use somewhere, right now its being worked into a similar idea for gallia with more open RP.

heres the basic sum up of Division 18

Quote:Division 18
This group, retaining bits of influence throughout the upper echelons of the Liberty Navy,
Liberty Security Force, and Liberty Police Inc since the Nomad War, is an undercover agency
working with several key political figures in Liberty to spread their agenda and expanding
over to large corporations, mostly related to military projects. Although not as powerful or
influential as before 801 A.S. the Division acts subtly and much less aggressively than their
predecessors. Division 18 specializes in political and economical warfare, avoiding the public
and taking risks only when necessary. The agency is sponsored by anonymous wealthy
investors, and may have been behind the construction of the Altair Research Facility.

It exsists but you didn't hear that from me.

Cellulanus · 08-12-2009, 05:22 AM,

Division 18 does not exist, please move along.

Also, The Wilde as an NPC faction covers all infested humans that operate openly last time I checked.

komet · (This post was last modified: 08-12-2009, 05:37 AM by komet.)

' Wrote:Voted for "other". Yes, I think it would work, but not in the typical way a faction works. No tags, no IFF, no openly accessible member/char names, likely no forum RP beyond a faction description. Knowing that "that guy is in Division 18" kinda ruins it, no?

Eh, like I said maybe we could work to develop Division 18's background a bit and make it something more of an insurgency like Das Wilde?

However, if Division 18 were to stay a sorta highly classified spy faction, then it would be kinda hard to RP in game... Heh, I should of mentioned that changing the way the faction works is a possibility, but oh well.

' Wrote:seriously...wat is it?

WHATS DIVISION 18?!

Err... Someone just posted what the Lore says about it. I'll append it to my first post when I have a sec.

Oh, one thing I should point out here. Since a lot of people don't seem to even know that Division 18 exists, maybe twisting it to a small terrorist group would work?

Just think of how confused the lawfuls would get when they try to hunt down an enemy that is right under their nose...

' Wrote:I've always considered the LSF to have that problem to a degree. Yes, they are a military organisation, but they are also an intelligence one.

The LSF tag kinda ruins any attempt at covert activity, given it means you can identify them a considerable distance. It's not like they can sneak up on you.

As to the original question, yes, I think it's possible. However, Liberty might be the single worst house to try that sort of RP.

I've gotten good RP from people in Liberty and I've gotten terrible RP in Liberty from both the common lolwut's and the most unexpected of people, so I really think Liberty wouldn't be a bad place to experiment with. Maybe the faction could improve the RP atmosphere if there were enough rumors or people RPing as them...

About the intel. vs military organization though, I think it could change at this point. There's nothing really out there that says they are intelligence only group, maybe they could have subgroups that enforce their rule such as assassins? Or maybe even highly skilled troops or pilots that carry out their dirty work through being possessed by Nomads, or just for money.

Oh, by the way, hey Diamond:P

' Wrote:I tryed to make this faction had a Forum set up and everthing, but haveing a spy faction just doesn't work with tags, everyone all ready knows your a spy. So for now I have it shut down in a dark corner somewhere.

Its so secret, you cant openly RP it... or your cover will be blown. Only way it could work is for some sort of ID or something.

But if anyone has any ideas? I would gladly support. The forum need use somewhere, right now its being worked into a similar idea for gallia with more open RP.

heres the basic sum up of Division 18
It exsists but you didn't hear that from me.

It's good to hear that you tried to get it off the ground. If you ask me, you should be able to present Division 18 as any way you see fit AS LONG as you have background, information, and facts to back up your reasoning.

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Anywho, Division 18 is like a piece of hot metal right now. It's new, it can be changed to reflect people's ideas as long as they have facts to back it up, and it does seem like it will work. Wow, that was a sucky simile...

EDIT: Missed your input, Johann.

I know the Wilde are operatives in Rheinland space (as the Lore document points out), but Division 18 is a group that involves Liberty, not Rheinland.

EDIT 2: I forgot to say thank you to everyone who has posted their input here, thanks a lot guys.

n00bl3t · 08-12-2009, 05:49 AM,

' Wrote:Well, I think there already is one... but meh.

The =LSF= deny any and all knowledge of anything said in this thread unless stated otherwise.

Anything I say is not intended as offensive, and to try and deliberately misinterpret it as such would be an attempt at trolling via misrepresentation.

It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.

sean24 · 08-12-2009, 06:05 AM,

I support this but it would have to be sort of underground-not all, hey im division 18 you know, someone already said that I know im just reiterating.

' Wrote:seriously...wat is it?

WHATS DIVISION 18?!

How bout a nice big cup of shut the f*** up (excuse my language)(you know, on your avatar...lol? ahh...I tried:mellow:) Its a nothin.

Ackarion · 08-12-2009, 06:06 AM,

' Wrote:It is nothing.
You didn't hear of it.
*Puts on black Ray bans* *flash*
You want to go home and have a nice cup of cocoa. Oh and put some armpit deodorant on.
You're working too hard. Life's to short to worry about Division 18. Oh damn.
*Black ray bans on* *Flash*

*laughs* Thats classic.

Marcus Lindberg · 08-12-2009, 06:10 AM,

Um, I've read the lore, and according to the lore, Division 18 is not exactly the same as the wild.

They apparently have control over most of the government, but only the government. Unlike the wilde, they don't have a military wing and are pretty much hang around the government. So I don't think a Division 18 faction would work, well not yet. If Liberty found out their government was controlled by Division 18 (which is controlled by nomads), then they would prolly oust them. At that point, the Division 18 might form a military wing to take back Liberty, which is pretty much the same thing the Wilde had to go through during vannilla FL campaign.

But I haven't read other peoples posts, so I could be wrong. Just giving my 2 cents.

NewOrder · 08-12-2009, 06:15 AM,

If anyones interested in working on this together, PM me and I'll send you accouple links

see if we cant create some kinda lore for it

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Poll: Do you think Division 18 would be possible as a player faction? You do not have permission to vote in this poll.
Yes	50.00%	14	50.00%
No	35.71%	10	35.71%
Other (please explain)	14.29%	4	14.29%
Total		28 vote(s)	100%