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[OsoRojo]

(ooc: getting off topic)

[Panzer]

Freeport 4 is an IMG base and we decare it a DMZ (demilitarized/buffer zone). If ANY I mean ANY ship opens fire on no matter who within a 10k radius around FP4, consider it a scorched wreck.

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[Firebird]

Ya point conceded...RP-wise the SA were fine with the request for cargo...administration-wise the confiscation of cargo outside of Liberty would be a problem.

Then again...
Pirates can request stuff from traders wherever they wish? Why wouldn't a lawful be able to do the same?:unsure:

We all agree though, SA requesting a player out of a neutral system was a problem, but that has been dealt with.

ADDED: We want to start a separate topic on this or split or what?

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[Korrd]

Because outside its jurisdiction it would be considered stealing.
And lawfuls don't do that.

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I am a Little unclear on what is going on. Does this mean hostilities have ensued? OR are we still bickering about un-important drivel. My men are waiting and we need to know soon what are actions are to be.

Lord Solar Grand Admiral Verginix

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[Thor]

-Incoming Transmission-

Comm ID: Admiral Adamson

I don't care what the reasons for putting an AW fleet in Magellan are. I will not allow it. If you think that it's cool to park warships just off the coast of my homeland and I won't mind then you're nuttier then I thought. If as you say the ships are there for defense of Vespici, then put them in Vespuci. I may not have jurisdiction in Magellan but the AW definitly don't and furthermore have no reason RP-wise or other to place so much as a garbage scow in the system. Unless its a precursor to invasion of California.

As to the question of asking for cargo outside Liberty Space, if that happened I would take my complaint to the AW straight off and not hold it in reserve to justify a war. As an Admiral in the SA I never heard a peep about it. And I couldn't read it in your message dump cause most of that is still coded. If you want peace which I am begining to doubt, then lets have a civil discussion about this. But I think that elements in both camps are itching for a war and will use any excuse to justify it. So if thats gonna be the case lets get on with it. You will find that we may not be as easy to defeat as you have boasted.

Adm. Adamson

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[Dab]

Hostilities have already been started. SA has shot both AW and HF and the SF have shot the AW because they try to at every oppertunity when they can try and blaim us for it.

Also, if anyone would care to even READ the report on the inceident by Koss, than you would see it happened right outside FP4. You are arguing about NPCs of yours at the jump gates.. This didn't start there. It started at FP4 which only BSG has a claim to. RIGHT outside it.

Have any of you even READ the damned report?

I'll be asking Koss if he caught the names of the SA and SF.

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[fwolf]

OOC:

A patrol area is different from a administrative area. You are confunding things.

Pirates can scan and demand cargo anywhere, because they are pirates. Lawfuls cant do that. Lawfuls can scan only inside their home systems. The patrols present in independent systems is no justification for such action. Also those patrols are composed of fighters, not battleships. I agree with Alpha that this will cause a lot of problems because of areas of influence inside a independent system.

Now, I think the SA is becoming too much imperialistic, with the sending of capships to Kusari space. A kusari is supposed to take as ofense to see his leadership asking for help to foreigners against pirates, specially the liberty navy who have links with the BAF. But, on the other hand, the current kusari government is corrupt, and this give reason for a strong RP for the blood dragons. I must point out that BD are not only pirates, but freedom fighters as well, and as they see the SA in Kusari space, they have more reasons to fight and to grown in numbers.

[OsoRojo]

Transmit.....

Yes and it lacks any evidence what so ever to back accusations. Provide evidence of such an attack and we will deal with those responsible. Have stated this several times.

Transmit...............

I believe you are looking for any, and all, justification to resume hostilities. Case in point, the AW-Tyrfring-Oso Incident. Evidence and a deposition was provided but it was made light of and not taken serious though your party fired upon SA. However, the SA did not push the subject nor did AW provide any apology. However, you wish us to take a report days old at face value. Until more evidence is provided you are considered the agressors. However, if you can provide some tangible proof of said incident the parties shall receive justice under our laws.

Transmit...........

To: AW

Comm ID: SA-OsoRojo

Greetings,

It is perplexing finding a AW-Tyrfing within the Colorado system, but just thought on a trading mission or some such. However, to my surprise, he was gunning for me, me?! Can you believe it!, and in a Rheinland Gunboat. At least that part of the accord was held to by your overzealous pilot. I Have included video on the aftermath, as ya can see the bugger brought my hull to less than 50%, and of our little conversation. He was a rather discourteous fellow.

Overall, just wondering is this an isolated incident?

My regards,
Ambassador OsoRojo (Gov. of Texas)

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Comm ID: commander F Wolf

Here is what happened. If people will believe in me or not, that is my version of the story:

As you probably known, to join the AW you have to get three bribes: one with the outcasts and two with the zoners of Freeport 10 (one of these two offered by a outcast npc). When you get the outcast bribe two kusari companies go hostile with you, and these are Samura and Kishiro.
I was going to Kusari Space in hope to correct this in a diplomatic mission. But when I saw the movements of OsoRojo in the chat screen, going from Honshu to Shikoku and then entering Galileo when I was already there, I decided to retreat back to Colorado after a short and gently chat with him.

When I was on the orbit of Denver, the kusari transports arrived, and called the local forces to engage me, and was a chaos. There was a dreadnought patrol near, and I started to shot missiles in the fighters. Unfortunately, one of my shots got in the trade lane where OsoRojo was entering with his fighter. Also one or two missiles hitted him by accident, and he turned to engage me. I engaged him, as I dont had choice, and we had a quick chat after he entered in cruise speed. I known that, whatever I say to a SA officer, they will say that Im wrong, so I stated to him to his officers do not attack me. He thought was a previous incident, but in fact is because there was a high presence of the SA in Tetha in the last two days and that is frightening me, and they are not passing with gunboats, but with battleships. And the reports about the corsairs offering technology to the SA turns the situation worse.

As you can see in the image below during the engagement, there are lots of npcs going after me. He is white because Im neutral with liberty, the npcs are red because of a request by the kishiro transports near. You can see I was starting to pursue him, as he hitted cruise.

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After that I retreated to New York, and the same thing happened again at the orbit of Manhattan, with the stupid transports calling the local forces to attack me.

I apologize for the mistake and I hope this will be regarded as a incident.

F Wolf out.

Comm ID: Aurelia Silvan
Re: Tyrfing

The Tyrfing and SA have given their sides of the story, and the SA has failed to prove that the Tyrfing opened fire first with intent to kill or damage. Judging from the kind of reports the SA has made on previous engagements with corporations, ones that were full of half truths and statements that neared lies, I'm fully prepared to see the SA finding this accident and trying to turn it into a way to attack one of our members with their leadership.

Until I have proof that the Tyrfing opened fire with intent to kill or injure, no actions will be taken upon him.

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(ooc: I did not broach it at time for I felt Order was more important. If he did not intend to "injure" me why did he not intiate some kind of dialouge before firing at all or before encountering me? In addition, if he did not mean to "injure" me why did he pursue me? He did not start any conversation until I did once outside of his guns and it was brief and curt. It is interesting his wordage of "you may go." This seems to imply he had intentions for future actions and my quoting the accord seemed to change his mind.)

[Korrd]

From: Korrd

So it seems it was an accident then.
Why didn't we begin with that first...

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