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Of biodomes and breadbaskets.
Offline Dab
09-19-2010, 05:56 AM, (This post was last modified: 09-19-2010, 06:00 AM by Dab.)
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Considering the failure that is scale in Freelancer, and the lack of lore explaining, we have absolutely no idea how big biodomes are.

Also taking into account the lore concerning how Synth Paste is able to be made in large amounts at high speeds for little cost, there is every possibility that each acre could feed 10 people, maybe even fifteen.

Without any lore or accurate scale, we have no idea how much those biodomes can truly produce. What we do have is lore that the Freeport in Theta sustains a large amount of the Corsair food demand. This is demand left over after the (fairly poor) crops the Corsair grow, and the (fairly large) amount of goods and food that they pirate.

The Outcasts have a far smaller demand for food than the Corsairs, this is made evident by the lack of any lore saying they have massive starvation to deal with.. That lore is tied only to the Corsairs. As such, we can safely assume the Outcasts grow and pirate almost all of their food products, relying relatively lightly on the Zoners. However, even if they do rely on food from the Zoners, they have Freeport 10, which is next door, to supply most of it.

Having half the number of biodomes to Freeport 9, Freeport 10 can certainly produce half the amount of food to Freeport 9. Allowing the food at Freeport 9 to go to the Corsairs, and the food at Freeport 10 to go to the Outcasts. That said, there is no lore, that I can find, saying the Outcasts rely on the Zoners at all for food products, and instead use them as a useful group to peddle stolen goods to, or buy goods they can't acquire through piracy or their own production.

So long as we're okay with using other sci-fi stories to act as precedence, I'd like to call into consideration EVE.

The stations of which can be as large as 70 cubic kilometers (70km length, width, and height), which is 70,000,000,000 cubic meters. EVE is well known for using proper scale. Lets assume Freeport 9 is a tenth that size, including the biodomes. 7 kilometers in each direction.. 70,000,000,000 * 0.1 = 7,000,000,000. 4 Biodomes account for roughly 75% of the station's size. 7,000,000,000 * .75 = 5,250,000,000 cubic meters. Lets say half of this is available for the actual growth of the food. 2,625,000,000 cubic meters. Lets assume that 25 cubic meters can sustain a single person for a year. It'd probably take only half that. 2,625,000,000 / 25 = 105,000,000 (56 million). That's 105% of the 100 million we're going with. Assuming the Corsairs' population is more around 300mil (Malta is at 215mil), and that 25 cubic meters, with Synth Paste being produced, can sustain 2 people, that's still 70% of the population being fed by Freeport 9.

With "Synth Paste is very adaptable and can be grown in huge quantities" (source: wiki) I'd actually put the number of people being sustained on 25 cubic meters to 5, instead of 2 people..

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Offline DarthCloakedGuy
09-19-2010, 06:06 AM,
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Still, you gotta wonder, Corsairs were getting most of their food from the Zoners, unless I am mistaken. Now that they've decided that the Zoners are annoying, who's going to feed them? The Junkers going to start food-smuggling on their way back?

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Offline Dusty Lens
09-19-2010, 06:06 AM,
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Dab, food isn't a fluid. Your math doesn't make any sense in regards to terrestrial crop production.
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Offline n00bl3t
09-19-2010, 06:10 AM,
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' Wrote:Dab, food isn't a fluid. Your math doesn't make any sense in regards to terrestrial crop production.

Forgive me, as I am lurking, but are we not talking about space stations?

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Offline DAnvilFan
09-19-2010, 06:11 AM, (This post was last modified: 09-19-2010, 06:12 AM by DAnvilFan.)
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Quote:Freeport XV is the biggest producer and exporter of food in the Omicrons. The station was recently modified to house numerous biodomes.

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Where are the biodomes that make FP15 the largest producer of food in the Omicrons?
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Offline DarthCloakedGuy
09-19-2010, 06:13 AM,
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' Wrote:[Image: Fp_xv.png]
Where are the biodomes that make FP15 the largest producer of food in the Omicrons?
I think the only proper response to this is...
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Offline sovereign
09-19-2010, 06:14 AM,
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' Wrote:Forgive me, as I am lurking, but are we not talking about space stations?

Sunlight still only covers a plane; you don't measure arable land in volume, but in surface area that can be pointed at the sun. A thin cylinder of radius r and a hemisphere of radius r have exactly the same amount of real estate that you can park crops on.

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Offline DAnvilFan
09-19-2010, 06:16 AM,
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' Wrote:I think the only proper response to this is...

My point is that Freelancer as seen in game does not accurately represent anything real or tangible.

Infocards say that FP15 is the largest food producer in the Omicrons. So that's how it is.
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Offline n00bl3t
09-19-2010, 06:17 AM,
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' Wrote:Sunlight still only covers a plane; you don't measure arable land in volume, but in surface area that can be pointed at the sun. A thin cylinder of radius r and a hemisphere of radius r have exactly the same amount of real estate that you can park crops on.

In this time and space, I propose the solution of mirrors.

Failing this simplistic measure to increase crop growth in terms of speed and size, I propose artificial lighting, which allows photosynthesis.

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Offline Dusty Lens
09-19-2010, 06:18 AM,
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' Wrote:Forgive me, as I am lurking, but are we not talking about space stations?

I apologize. I didn't consider that some of the newer members of our community might not have seen a biodome before.

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A biodome, for those of you who don't know, is essentially a plot of earth within a self contained environment used for the economic growth of crop production by virtue of a local stellar body. Crops seem to range from traditional to synth weeds.
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