Q6600 is 160 pounds sterling and yes, quad core is VERY useful for gaming (check out Supreme Commander and Crysis, my overclocked E6600 (to 3.3~ GHz) has problems with them). The benchmarks do change with these games especially, with quad core, because they are multi-threaded sufficiently for 4 cores
The age of the multi-threading is upon us. New SSE codes are coming out (Super Shuffle Engines) with Penryn processors blitzing the Core Architecture in both speed at stock settings (8 % increase average) and Overclocking (3.6 GHz max ceiling on air cooling for the Core architecture, 4.2 GHz ceiling for Penryn architecture dies).
Nahalem is on the way too, with a predicted core count of 2, 4 and 8 on a single die. PLUS, these all include a tweaked version of hyper-threading, an AMD creation, which creates a virtual core using left over processing power. so in effect, a 4, 8 and 16 core CPU on a single die is on the way for a release in the third quarter this year.
The next step is from a 45 nm process to a 32 nm process, which is possible with current technology used in the manufacture of Penryn dies, and the creation of Cell Processors as CPUs. This will allow the simultaneous execution of a single thread by more than one core, without the need to divert processing power to split the thread into as many parts as there are cores. Cell Processors can also have obscene amounts of cores, high in the double figures if rumours are to be believed.
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If you dont want to Overclock, then... well.. learn how to, because that is where the Intel processors really shine. But be cautious... don't blow the processor with silly amounts of voltage, 1.45 should be the maximum you're willing to go. It also takes a long time to tweak it properly for the most efficiency.
The Q6600 G0 stepping can OC to 3.6 GHz on basic air cooling (Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 pro) and the Q6600 B3 stepping can OC to 3.3 GHz on basic air cooling. The reason is the small manufacturing difference in the G0 compared to the B3 that means it runs around 5 degrees C cooler.
For the same price, the Q6600 is a smarter purchase than the E6850, as it can easily be pushed above it, even if you get stuck with one that doesn't Overclock as much as I said (which happens, no two CPUs are the same). It is also more futureproof, by about 6 months, which is a full cycle in computer terms.
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Motherboard.
PLEASE do this:
Get a motherboard with the P35 intel chipset. Works very well with their own processors, better than Nvidia's 6xx and 7xx series motherboards. And, better than Intel's own X38 chipset, which is supposed to be better than the P35.
I would recomend the Asus Blitz Formula or the P5K premium (NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH the Asus Blitz Extreme and P5K3 premium, which don't accept DDR2 RAM, but only DDR3 RAM, which is more expensive and not needed). These boards are a must if you want to overclock your CPU and get the most out of it.
You should check if your CPU can be overclocked (EXPERIENCED PEOPLE ONLY!!!!! ask a friend that has some knowledge in CPU if your are not good with these things)
Because your Video card is good for an other 6 months
Rams last nearly foreever lol
Your Motherboard is good ( unless you want crossfire or SLI )
If you want to change your CPU you must stay with AMD or you'll need to change to motherboard too and that mean money money money.
and Your CPU is good enough for an other 3-6 months even if you can't upgrade it
If I was you I should wait a bit before changing your computer or any parts in it
(When you're reading specs req on game box, they are most of the time saying Athlon 64 or Pentium 4, You'll notice that your CPU is 1,5 to 2,0 times much stronger than those listed on boxes because of the technology and the performance that are better nowadays)
McNeo Wrote:I would recomend the Asus Blitz Formula or the P5K premium (NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH the Asus Blitz Extreme and P5K3 premium, which don't accept DDR2 RAM, but only DDR3 RAM, which is more expensive and not needed). These boards are a must if you want to overclock your CPU and get the most out of it.
I'm thinking of getting the P5K-SE mobo, which, according to a PC-savvy friend of mine, is very good for it's price.
kingvaillant Wrote:If I was you I should wait a bit before changing your computer or any parts in it
Thing is, I didn't just get the computer... I've had this thing for about a year now and haven't upgraded it.
I thought I'd do it now before it's too late.
EDIT: The Q6600 does seem like a good purchase now, though.
I'll just have to dig up those OC-tutorials in Gaming PC magazines I have around the place, or Google if those don't help much.
Gee, i dont see any reson to upgrade your computer yet, i run 4years old computer, u have good CPU as i know, no need to change that, only if you will use it for mad running 10 apps at once...
Save your cash for now, gather little more and in few moths prices will drop.....
And for all low budget wanna have directX 10 GFX card i recommend ATI 2400, 2600, 2800 HD, they are good cards with and not to costly, all under 100$ or Nvidia GeForce 8500GT, also directX 10 support 256-512 DDR2, good bundle, price bout 80$
' Wrote:Gee, i dont see any reson to upgrade your computer yet, i run 4years old computer, u have good CPU as i know, no need to change that, only if you will use it for mad running 10 apps at once...
Save your cash for now, gather little more and in few moths prices will drop.....
And for all low budget wanna have directX 10 GFX card i recommend ATI 2400, 2600, 2800 HD, they are good cards with and not to costly, all under 100$ or Nvidia GeForce 8500GT, also directX 10 support 256-512 DDR2, good bundle, price bout 80$
By the time I can afford the processor I want, it will have gone down in price. =P
[q]By the time I can afford the processor I want, it will have gone down in price. =P[/q]
By the time you can afford the one you want there will be at least a dozen replacements in the same price-range that have doubled in performance.
My last computer was a AMD XP3200+ with 512 DDR and a Radeon 9800 Pro 512... it ran FL and most other games without any problems... Sure i couldnt run the newest games in full-res and graphics, but still older PC's can hold out a long while before the get TOO old. Yours seems pretty decent, so you might wanna replace that graphics card but otherwise i would just leave it be untill you get the $$$ you need to buy a complete new system.
"War. War never changes. Since the dawn of human kind, when our ancestors first discovered the killing power of rock and bone, blood has been spilled in the name of everything, from God to justice to simple, psychotic rage."
I can run FL, detail maxed out, on a 562Mhz Celeron with an ATI Radeon 9200 PCI. Oh yeah, it has like 256 MB of RAM.
That one's a backup PC, mine is an overclocked 2.25Ghz Athlon 64 3000+ (I want to put it at 3.0, have yet to get voltages right), XFX nVidia GeForce 7600GT, and a gig of RAM. (I need to get a pair of 1 gigs though)
My advcie would be to get a new processor, like others have said, and then more RAM. Those two will give you the gratest performance increase from the start. Later go for an 8600 GT, for the money, it can't be beaten.
Have fun!
Zealot Wrote:Just go play the game and have fun dammit.
Treewyrm Wrote:all in all the conclusion is that disco doesn't need antagonist factions, it doesn't need phantoms, it doesn't need nomads, it doesn't need coalition and it doesn't need many other things, no AIs, the game is hijacked by morons to confuse the game with their dickwaving generic competition games mixed up with troll-of-the-day.
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