The Internet is on pause in a sense

[Fletcher]

3: If we run out of IPs, just make a program to add numbers onto it, duh. There, you suddenly have millions of more IPs

No, I'm not going to try to explain but its ISP side is the problem. We've simply run out of combinations of free IP's, we can't just add numbers to it; its much more complicated than that. I can't claim to fully understand IP's, but I get the gist of it.

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[asgaron]

Hmm, you should really dig out more information on IP addresses.

Actually you miss the important fact that a lot of ranges are reserved for national use.
And companies have more ranges available than possible costumers.

but there are really more important and very concerning things going on than ip addresses...

[Malcolm_Reynalds]

1: I'm 16 and WTF does this mean

2: What about us who need to reset our router every month cause it hiccups?

3: If we run out of IPs, just make a program to add numbers onto it, duh. There, you suddenly have millions of more IPs

1) for you and the average home user, Nothing.
This means that all the IP addresses have been "allocated" but not all "in use".
Your local ISP has the same amount of addresses it had to use since it was assigned a block. (a lot more than the customers they currently have)

2) That's typically a router hardware issue.

3) it's called IP v6 (version 6)
what we use now is version 4 (established in 1981) with over 4 Billion possible addresses. 4,000,000,000
Mathematically, version 6 would theoretically allow 340,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 possible addresses.

Note: IPv6 is already in the process of being deployed

[Snoozzzer]

Cease scaring us little kiddies Fletcher. We consumers won't notice this IPv4 problem, which has existed for years, by the by.

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[MarvinCZ]

Really, this isn't such a problem.

Even now lot of you people aren't using your own IP, but are sharing one with maybe hundreds other people. That's called NAT. You don't need your own public IP address (which is what this is about) to connect to the internet - and by that I mean even your router doesn't need a public IP. You need one if you want to host a server accessible from the internet (and even then not always, if you can route the traffic to your machine).

[Alex.]

Really, this isn't such a problem.

Even now lot of you people aren't using your own IP, but are sharing one with maybe hundreds other people. That's called NAT. You don't need your own public IP address (which is what this is about) to connect to the internet - and by that I mean even your router doesn't need a public IP. You need one if you want to host a server accessible from the internet (and even then not always, if you can route the traffic to your machine).

Most people are on NATs limited to whatever they put behind their own routers. It's very unusual to share an IP with hundreds of other people.

[Backo]

I currently have 5 people connected under my router and we all use the same external IP address. Downside - unless I open up ports and specify things on the router people can't find exactly my machine, instead they see the router as a single computer that sends all the information. So yeah, we ran out, worst case scenario - your'll be wired to another router in the ISP's office/base/HQ/Evil lair and thus you'll need to specify ports and all if you want to host servers. Now other things like downloads, playing games, sending stuff over skype - it'll work juuuust fine.

A guy that's been hiding behind his router for a while now and <3s Hamachi.

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[MarvinCZ]

Most people are on NATs limited to whatever they put behind their own routers. It's very unusual to share an IP with hundreds of other people.

Yeah, hundreds was over the top for most situations. But it does happen, and is no tragedy. What I wanted to point out was, that even if your own router doesn't have a public external IP, it's no problem in most situations. It certainly doesn't mean you wouldn't have Internet connection, as the thread seemed to suggest.

[gafwmn]

1) for you and the average home user, Nothing.
This means that all the IP addresses have been "allocated" but not all "in use".
Your local ISP has the same amount of addresses it had to use since it was assigned a block. (a lot more than the customers they currently have)

2) That's typically a router hardware issue.

3) it's called IP v6 (version 6)
what we use now is version 4 (established in 1981) with over 4 Billion possible addresses. 4,000,000,000
Mathematically, version 6 would theoretically allow 340,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 possible addresses.

Note: IPv6 is already in the process of being deployed

Correct.We ran out of IPv4 addresses at 9:30 am this morning,and the IPv6 is already rolling out.
I know this cause my buddy has been at the staff meetings in Washington the past 2 days going over the details.Now....we wait and see.....

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