About the Phantoms!

[Shryke]

There's nothing sad about the Phantom guns. At all.

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[Kontrazec (Somni)]

*shrugs* I'd rather use Krakens or if need be, even Flashpoints... Don't fancy the guns, no idea why.

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Sucks to be a weight on the wrong side of the brilliance-insanity scale.

[SnakThree]

I only showed example of good information gathering. Did I mention to be KPT yourself? <_<
You can do it with Pirate/FL/Merc ID easily.

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[Death.RunningVerminator]

I'd join. That is, if there's a strong enough leader to put it all together.

[MarcusCogworks]

I was considering making a phantom character, along with a nomad and coalition.. to see the other side of the coin so to speak...

I don't know much about Phantom RP only that they are meant to be the most secret and scary faction of terrorists in Sirius...

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[Kontrazec (Somni)]

Sigh... the point is not in what I CAN or CANNOT use, it's what kind of ring "Phantoms" has. I mean, if you saw a merc somewhere you'd just leave him alone if he didn't touch you, right? You'd figure something nasty was going on if you saw a Phantom, right? Plus, there's no point in having the NPC phantoms if the official faction will remain disbanded, as they ARE the product of RP.

EDIT: Ninja'd twice, dayum.

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Sucks to be a weight on the wrong side of the brilliance-insanity scale.

[RmJ]

One of the main reasons that I gather as to why the Phantoms choose to disband was because an actual terrorist or terrorist faction cannot exists on this server without the rest of the community working with them. Other than shooting other players, what can they do that shows they are terrorist without power/meta gaming?

I'll use Joker as an example, he has successfully role played a terrorist character because people played along with him. Without the community working with them, it isn't possible.

As for your suggestion about being intel brokers; you can do that without the Phantom tech, IDs, or bases.

@ Jeremy
What? I am confused!

I don't know about you but over the course of 3 years I have done well with my terrorist organization. Made changes to political realms with the use of force and it didn't have to come with everyone agreeing.


Being a lone wolf terrorist is easy - to do and to get shot down. But being a organization using the tool of terrorism is a completely different animal.


Terrorism for some reason is depicted as mad men eating flesh and smeering their poo all over things. Terrorist are those who use threat of violence and force to influence social and or political change by installing fear.


If you have no political agenda or social agenda then you're not a terrorist but a mass murder.


If you kill just because you like too you're a psychopath not a terrorist.

If you kill because you can then you're a sociopath not a terrorist.

If you kill for agenda to change the masses or government of social or political current standings then you're a terrorist.



With that said leave the Phantoms alone. What is done is done no more can be added their wishes are met.

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[Snoozzzer]

I believe it was the wish off the former members (at least leaders) that the Phantom faction are to remain disbanded.

I personally feel that it would be the best way.

Leave the faction dead please, unless the former leaders says otherwise.

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The former leaders could not bothered to change with the times and put some real effort into that faction, so they disbanded it. Why shouldn't a new, young and motivated group be allowed to give that faction another shot?

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[Death.RunningVerminator]

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The former leaders could not bothered to change with the times and put some real effort into that faction, so they disbanded it. Why shouldn't a new, young and motivated group be allowed to give that faction another shot?

Go for it, snoozerkins.

[Kontrazec (Somni)]

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The former leaders could not bothered to change with the times and put some real effort into that faction, so they disbanded it. Why shouldn't a new, young and motivated group be allowed to give that faction another shot?

I wouldn't go that far, but yes, I've seen a lot of disco time without a single Phantom online. Not one. And the ones I HAVE seen, for example, tried to make a deal with the NLH for GOD knows what reason. So yeah, the Phantoms are a gold mine of opportunities just waiting to be taken.

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Sucks to be a weight on the wrong side of the brilliance-insanity scale.