@ skullz, this is not meant offensive lad, i like what you said, sounds like your a wise guy.
but where my RP was? well if your willing i can simulate the cirumstances its somewhat like you'd be trying to talk to me from your Gb when im 100 m away from you with my cruiser blasting your hull down at 100000/s
A Psalm out of the outcast history books.
The dons are our shepherds; I shall not want. They make us live with a cause; They lead us trough the still vasts of space. They restore our souls; They lead us in the paths of righteousness For The Orange Dream. Yai, though we fly through the valley of the shadow of death, we will fear no evil; For the Spirits are with us; Your leadership and Your cardamine, they comfort us. You prepare a safe home for us in the presence of our enemies; Surely goodness and mercy shall follow us All the days of our life; And we will dwell in the house of the outcasts Forever
Clearly you haven't played singleplayer. Wilde there uncloak their Wraiths and wtfengage Trent and Junko with NO RP WHATSOEVER! OHMAHGAWD Q.Q *cry*
They're ****ing nomads!
Now having said all of this, yeah I think Das Wilde needs to be wiped and reorganized. It needs to be an extremely shadowy part of the Rheinland government that is completely autonomous, uses Rheinland Military IFFs, and Rheinland Military ships.
Got a secret for you, don't tell anyone I told you this ok.
The wilde players are no better or worse than anyone else.
Sometimes you run into them on a good day, other days they just can't be bothered.
Sure they may sometimes claim to be better than others but I think a lot of factions are guilty of that.
All up some people's conspiracy feelings about "elite" factions are true, they let friends in with lower requirements thn others... but that is human nature and again no different to other factions.
So the best thing you can do is to stop thinking and expecting better from them than others, it won't work.
You can have a problem with them having closed recruitment if you wish, but that is their right as a faction.
You can have a problem with not being able to get the ID as an indie, but for better or worse that is a privilage granted by the admin.
All up though work out what exactly is the problem you feel towards them.
Is it closed recruitment, exclusive ID or that you will hold them to a higher level of RP than others.
What ever it is as long as you stick to what it is and not cross contaminate your ideas then by all means speak up and air your concerns.
But don't fool yourself that any change will come of it.
Oops, You thought I mean't yours Maximus. NO. The Wilde I was talking about.
I'm running a faction, ran VPS- (put it down in the storage cupboard for the time being) and in a Official Faction midrank range [=LSF=] So I know what am looking for really. Any Faction leader, doesn't matter what type of problem has been brought up a good one (faction leader) should always look at it seriously.
Why I say this, it is the same in having a job. The customer is always correct. A good faction leader needs to look at both aspects, and take a closer look at there members. Not dismiss it. Or always believe there members. (Which will only lead to further problems). erm I've babbled. Basically what I am saying they should really look at these and try to improve on themselves as players. No one is perfect. If they know they did what you saw, it is better for them to accept the fact they did what they did. No one will learn if they don't learn from a mistake instead of ignoring it.
It is better to accept a mistake. Make an apology to you Maximus and those responsable to learn from it. It is very simple.
Edit: addition to Dane and Markus
Maximus is not trying to do that. He is trying to provide the wilde faction with feedback that they can build on. That is not a crime. All players should be allowed to give feedback to any faction in the game, as long as it is mannered properly which personnally I do find is right, and he is using his own right of speach here to provide feedback. Not trying to do what you are suggesting. Please read, don't assume.
Quote:All up though work out what exactly is the problem you feel towards them.
Is it closed recruitment, exclusive ID or that you will hold them to a higher level of RP than others.
You're a smart guy janus, i can see what you're trying to do there, make me look like just some jelous lad blazing at The wilde cause he cant have Shiny stuff. (you'd do oh so well in debates/politics , ps : we all love you as well)
Very well i'll go into it some more, more precisely this part anyways "that you will hold them to a higher level of RP than others."
Theyre the wild, theyve been granted overpowerd ships (we all know thats true), upon the condition (and if not than its just given to players who are friends of certain people, "elite" point proven) that they are worthy RP'ing as such. i do NOT hold them to higher level of Rp but is it wrong to atleast expect RP AT ALL? If no Rp is required for a faction, why dont we all make some factions n give em some overpowerd ships? would soon result in a never-ending circle of making factions more overpowerd than the other one.
All up some people's conspiracy feelings about "elite" factions are true, they let friends in with lower requirements thn others... but that is human nature and again no different to other factions.
Lower? from what im seeing its: friends or gtfo (again, im human, might be wrong but thats what me, and according to the feedback im getting here, alot of others think)
Admins please, i beg of you, after reading what so many players think about this: Atleast look into it, there is clearly something WRONG. i'm not asking you to punish all of them, im not asking you to disband them, i'm not asking to declare the Faction closed. all i'm asking is that you look into it and kick out the ones that (as so many have already confirmed here) are simply in it for the overpowerd ships and to be a invicble pvp"ladyofthestreet" Or if not than atleast make it indie so everyone can go play overpowerd pvp"ladyofgoodtimes" I'd gladly stop rp'ing and start pewpewing with an almost invincible ship
(yea ive changed the curse words cause thats yet another warning ive gotten on my skype, seems that people who piss the wrong people off get sanctioned really easily (again im just spewing out what im hearing, it might not be true that certain mods do this, in which case i am utmost sorry))
To the admins, i call upon this rule i found. after seeing the feedback of most, i find it more than reasonable to say that It is indeed a violation of the "To be fair and treat all players equally" part (If said players are indeed choosen by administrators only to join the Wild club)
1.3 Administrators are obliged:
- To ensure work of Discovery Freelancer server;
- To be fair and treat all players equally, independent of their level and faction alignment;
- Not to mix server roleplaying with server administration in any way;
- Not to ignore any cases of server rules violations that are reported.
A Psalm out of the outcast history books.
The dons are our shepherds; I shall not want. They make us live with a cause; They lead us trough the still vasts of space. They restore our souls; They lead us in the paths of righteousness For The Orange Dream. Yai, though we fly through the valley of the shadow of death, we will fear no evil; For the Spirits are with us; Your leadership and Your cardamine, they comfort us. You prepare a safe home for us in the presence of our enemies; Surely goodness and mercy shall follow us All the days of our life; And we will dwell in the house of the outcasts Forever
I agree with ore: If the wild isnt doing what is expected from them, than atleast make it open, or let the good civilians like him have the shiny stuff too cause for as far as i know the SOLE REASON nomad/wild's recruitment is like that to keep out the pewpewing lolwuts. mission FAILED (atleast in 90%
I agree with skullz on his first part: yes the leaders SHOULD look into it, but with a closed feedback i dont see any Effort from their side to do this, frankly in my eyes they couldnt care less since the feedback has been closed since May
I also agree with skulls on his second part: all im trying to do here is get a little fairplay/rp into the game, i thought that was the essence of this whole server aye?
Just to be sure: Yes They might have their "good" days as well, but god almighty save me cause i must be cursed, i (and alot of others apparently) seem only to meet them on their worst days. May the good lord relieve me from this curse fast cause its already more than 3 times ive seen em in their bad days and 0 times in their "good" days
A Psalm out of the outcast history books.
The dons are our shepherds; I shall not want. They make us live with a cause; They lead us trough the still vasts of space. They restore our souls; They lead us in the paths of righteousness For The Orange Dream. Yai, though we fly through the valley of the shadow of death, we will fear no evil; For the Spirits are with us; Your leadership and Your cardamine, they comfort us. You prepare a safe home for us in the presence of our enemies; Surely goodness and mercy shall follow us All the days of our life; And we will dwell in the house of the outcasts Forever