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The need for more high priced Super Heavy Fighters...

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The need for more high priced Super Heavy Fighters...
Offline Dunii
03-22-2008, 08:55 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-22-2008, 09:02 PM by Dunii.)
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I have tried flying them, I've used 8 of them and only noticed slight nearly negligible differences in handling and such. IMO it's the devs attempt at balancing every faction, inadvertently that have made it severely over balanced, thus killing much of the mod realism.

BTW, it's not that I don't like the mod, Discovery remains one of my favorite mods by far. I just don't like the lack of realism, and how stoic the mod feels. It seems whenever I play on the official RP server the VAST majority of people are in capital ships, and 90% of those who aren't only aren't because they don't have the money for one yet. Tell me, how is that true RP? It's not, it makes no sense. And why does everyone get a capital ship eventually? Because VHFs/SHFs become almost useless eventually, players can have a VHF with all class 9 and class 10 weapons, the best scanner, and a class 10 shield in just a few hours. Then what do they do with all the rest of the money they get? If they want to spend it on themselves their ONLY option is a capital ship, I'm just asking that they add other options for those of us that has no interest in capital ships whatsoever.
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Offline mjolnir
03-22-2008, 11:44 PM,
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Negligible differences in handling ? :shok:

Difference between say a Wrath or Sabre and a Titan is just about as far as it goes...
turning much faster...dodging much better... much more/less armor... much bigger/smaller powerplant (10k or 15k is a HUGE difference don't you think?)

about capships... well there are many other things that you can "invest" money in.. most are RP related.

And since you can get a VHF with armor fairly fast.. you have much more time to actually roleplay with it... see the point?

Instead of just going around trading forever.... that's the good thing about discovery... easy to get into level playing field (with say a bomber)... no need for power-trading.

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Offline Horon
03-22-2008, 11:53 PM,
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If you have that much money on you, you don't NEED to get a big capital ship... buy yourself another fighter... Its like real life today, you have people who collect cars, so why can't we have people who collect fighters? Unique analogy, but...it seemed appropriate. There are quite a few out there...

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Offline ivr56
03-23-2008, 05:51 AM,
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collectring fighters is good if you always like flying something different
But some people like to collect capital ships though
Everyone is different

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Offline Boss
03-27-2008, 05:39 PM,
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I can't stand flying capships. I collect fighters...

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Offline me_b_kevin
03-27-2008, 05:56 PM,
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i would like to see the SHF beefed up a tad.

i have flown some of the SHF and noticed that they mostly only have turrets...maybe two forward firing guns. why not make some fighter turrets that are above level 5 (i think that's the highest right now). the energy requirements would be high but just adjust the SHF energy so it can handle it.

and i agree a freightor class 6 shield would be nice.....

just give them freightor shields and better turrets. that should be all you need

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Offline Jihadjoe
03-27-2008, 06:01 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-27-2008, 06:03 PM by Jihadjoe.)
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' Wrote:It seems whenever I play on the official RP server the VAST majority of people are in capital ships, and 90% of those who aren't only aren't because they don't have the money for one yet. Tell me, how is that true RP? It's not, it makes no sense. And why does everyone get a capital ship eventually? Because VHFs/SHFs become almost useless eventually, players can have a VHF with all class 9 and class 10 weapons, the best scanner, and a class 10 shield in just a few hours.

Not true. A lot of people (basically most people I hang about with) know how good VHF's are. I usualy fly my raven's talon and I fly it better than any of my other ships, and to a greater effect.

Lots of people in NY have cap ships, but that NY and seems to be a different case to anywhere else in disco.

However at the moment SHF's are useless. Somthing needs to be done about them, but what I don't know.

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Offline AdamantineFist
03-28-2008, 02:22 AM,
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' Wrote:If SHFs get 24k shield (lvl 6 freighter) and extra CD only slot....like I have been screaming for lately.... they will be nice...

as patrol ship against smuggling and/or pirating ships.

But Igiss said that he doesn't want many (or any?) more SHFs to be added after the Rheinland one.

There's gonna be a Rheinland one?!! Sweet!! And yeah, I second those opinions on the SHF. Give them maybe another gun as well. I love the fact that I can have a SUPERNOVA mounted on my Spatial, as it has such a huge powerplant. It's pretty much impossible to drain its energy with regular weapons fire. Its huge supply of shield batteries and nanobots is quite useful, I find. Note that the true use of a SHF in PvP is not to defeat the other ship, but to make the player flying that ship die of an aneurysm as he screams "WHY WONT YOU DIE?!!!" I once had an Outcast chase me across what must have been the equivalent of an entire system. Very fun. :P

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Offline Xing
03-28-2008, 04:31 AM,
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yep. after a very heated debate over wether it would become a hessian gunboat or rheinland SHF.
Finally, I went against the wills of the debate (a hessian SHF), and I made my model goes in Rheinland SHF XD.

thanks goes to AoM for texturing, hardpointing, suv'ing, etc.
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Offline AdamantineFist
03-29-2008, 03:25 AM,
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Rheinland SHF!! Rheinland SHF!!!!!

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