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Pirates and Rheinland
Offline bluntpencil2001
04-05-2008, 05:35 AM,
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I'm afraid I have to disagree with DBoy (sorry). RM kick ass. You know that. Perhaps more enemies, such as LWB and Unioners would balance things a little. If they were based at the Liberty border too... it could prove very interesting.

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Offline Xing
04-05-2008, 05:36 AM,
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ivr you forgot SCRA in sirius wide I believe.
now, that was quite impressive for Liberty...

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Offline Reverend Del
04-05-2008, 05:40 AM,
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' Wrote:ivr you forgot SCRA in sirius wide I believe.
now, that was quite impressive for Liberty...
Liberty is basically full, every NPC faction is represented with the exception of it's trading cororations, neither IND nor KoF truly represent the banner they fly under.

Saying that, RM is a touch over worked when it's on, the RM is seen as the pinnacle of Lawful factions and everyone wants to get an "I killed an RM" bumber sticker on the back of their ships.

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Offline sovereign
04-05-2008, 05:44 AM,
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' Wrote:I'm afraid I have to disagree with DBoy (sorry). RM kick ass. You know that. Perhaps more enemies, such as LWB and Unioners would balance things a little. If they were based at the Liberty border too... it could prove very interesting.

The part about kicking ass is an understatement. Seriously. Having RM a little more active and more pirates (or just more pirates) will do wonders to the diamond whores and provide good RP. I think Gronath can verify that Bundschuh + RM = good RP, we've been in the same system a few times, and despite knowing where he was, none of my group bothered to go attack him, or even attract his attention: unlawfuls in Rheinland != PvP whores.

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Offline Blodo
04-05-2008, 11:21 AM, (This post was last modified: 04-05-2008, 12:44 PM by Blodo.)
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' Wrote:Oh please, please no more Rheinland pirate factions. Rheinland gets whored enough by not only the RP factions, but several out of character pilots that just want to get in there for a fight.
I am afraid I will have to disagree with that. As of late when the RHA sort of started dying out, the RM really had little to worry about. Bundschuh rarely fight (as their RP dictates), the indie Red Hessians have gone AWOL as well (a real shame, the forays into Gamma were brilliant), and.. apart from the odd weird OoRP pirate looking for some PvP and getting schooled after no more than 2 minutes of said PvP, I don't see the RM having much to do. I have been on a few nights before where I just flied around with my trader, and the RM were all sitting at New Berlin for hours at a time most likely bored out of their skins.
If you are concerned with purported whoring of RM: even if there are more pirate factions in Rheinland, it is very unlikely all of the pirate factions of Rheinland will just start converging on New Berlin all of a sudden unless it is planned and the RM are already waiting for them. They all have their areas of attention, with the Red Hessians by far being preoccupied the most with the Omegas and the ever present Corsair threat, the Bundschuh spilling all over (even into Sigma-13) and a possible Unioner faction very likely more concerned with Hamburg, Bering and Hudson than New Berlin. If the RM are bored near New Berlin, they could always do their own raid into pirate territory. Again, aside from that one time in Dresden last week I haven't seen RM in Dresden for quite a while.
Lets not even mention the fact that with the skill level of RM all the pirates would actually need to outnumber you about 3:2 to make the fight fair. I doubt there is one RM above the rank of Recruit I could engage in 1v1 PvP and win.

This topic not being about the RM and what they do though; while the RHA does need revitalising (that is being taken care of), another faction would draw in some more activity as well. Besides, Hamburg is rather empty. Unioners really have a lot of potential and if I wasn't occupied with the Hessians already I would most likely have made a Unioner character by now. At the moment Rheinland is pretty much RM and BU and (if we are lucky) RHA. That's quite subpar if you ask me, and more on the same level as Bretonia if not worse, especially recently.
Case in point: Rheinland really does need more activity not on the part of silent niobium->diamond runners. Some might disagree that this activity should actually come in the form of a new faction, but establishing a new one does add to the variety and will bring in more people as people always like variety. The best part of this is that Rheinland is so good at stopping OoRP behaviour. Here I praise the RM for their great RP and by extension the influence of all the indie militaries in New Berlin as well. A lot of variety coupled with great RP will make the house a really amazing experience.

That's my opinion anyways.
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Offline sovereign
04-05-2008, 12:35 PM,
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' Wrote:I am afraid I will have to disagree with that. As of late when the RHA sort of started dying out, the RM really had little to worry about. Bundschuh rarely fight as their RP dictates, the indie Red Hessians have gone AWOL as well (a real shame, the forays into Gamma were brilliant), and.. apart from the odd weird OoRP pirate looking for some PvP and getting schooled after no more than 2 minutes of said PvP, I don't see the RM having much to do. I have been on a few nights before where I just flied around with my trader, and the RM were all sitting at New Berlin for hours at a time most likely bored out of their skins.
If you are concerned with purported whoring of RM: even if there are more pirate factions in Rheinland, it is very unlikely all of the pirate factions of Rheinland will just start converging on New Berlin all of a sudden unless it is planned and the RM are already waiting for them. They all have their areas of attention, with the Red Hessians by far being preoccupied the most with the Omegas and the ever present Corsair threat, the Bundschuh spilling all over (even into Sigma-13) and a possible Unioner faction very likely more concerned with Hamburg, Bering and Hudson than New Berlin. If the RM are bored near New Berlin, they could always do their own raid into pirate territory. Again, aside from that one time in Dresden last week I haven't seen RM in Dresden for quite a while.
Lets not even mention the fact that with the skill level of RM all the pirates would actually need to outnumber you about 3:2 to make the fight fair. I doubt there is one RM above the rank of Recruit I could engage in 1v1 PvP and win.

This topic not being about the RM and what they do though; while the RHA does need revitalising (that is being taken care of), another faction would draw in some more activity as well. Besides, Hamburg is rather empty. Unioners really have a lot of potential and if I wasn't occupied with the Hessians already I would most likely have made a Unioner character by now. At the moment Rheinland is pretty much RM and BU and (if we are lucky) RHA. That's quite subpar if you ask me, and more on the same level as Bretonia if not worse, especially recently.
Case in point: Rheinland really does need more activity not on the part of silent niobium->diamond runners. Some might disagree that this activity should actually come in the form of a new faction, but establishing a new one does add to the variety and will bring in more people as people always like variety. The best part of this is that Rheinland is so good at stopping OoRP behaviour. Here I praise the RM for their great RP and by extension the influence of all the indie militaries in New Berlin as well. A lot of variety coupled with great RP will make the house a really amazing experience.

That's my opinion anyways.

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Offline Othman
04-05-2008, 12:54 PM,
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The addition of Unioners could work if they replace the OORP incursions of some, being done just for fun. And its true that it could add a depth to the roleplay factor, that is already a step higher from most places in Rheinland.

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Offline chopper
04-05-2008, 12:58 PM,
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Well, with the Wild becoming official it would become pretty good.
And it would probably increase activity of both lawfuls and unlawfuls in Rheinland space.

I agree with Xoria here. Don't make new factions until the existing ones are well represented.
Also, Unioners are not the same as Xenos. Though I still fail to see anything special on Xeno ID comparing it to regular pirate ID.
They have the same rights, just bigger limitations.
I would like that to change, for Xenos, Unioners, Gaians and FA or BD's (though they have a PC terrorist faction, so no point).
Reason for XA success is because they have a pretty good group of some 6 active players who all decided to work on that idea.
If you can find 6-8 responsible and forum-active members who would like to commit mainly to that faction - there is no problem.
Face it, XA has players which are almost fully committed to that faction.
And kudos to them for that. ZNOs rule.

Btw, Blodo is in the RHA, so no point preaching about RHA inactivity to him.

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Offline Othman
04-05-2008, 01:00 PM,
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' Wrote:If you can find 6-8 responsible and forum-active members who would like to commit mainly to that faction - there is no problem.
This is one of the key factors for the survival and durability of a faction.

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Offline Freedom Defense
04-06-2008, 03:22 AM,
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' Wrote:RHA seems dead in Rheinland
BU are getting active

hersa list of fractions and there areas of operations
Liberty:
LSF
SA
LPI
XA
LR
LH
KoF
IND

Bretonia:
UoG
BAF
QCP
BPA
=CR=
NHL
Kusari:
KNF
AFA
Nova-PG
GC
Samura?

Rheinland:
RHA
BU
RepEX
RM

Omicrons:
TBH
OPG
Bretinez
RoS
101st
202nd
Bs|
Keepers

Sigmas:
Everything Basically

Omegas:
RHA
HT (Hessien Tears)
TBH
OPG
Bretinez

Taus:
KNF
BAF
AFA
BPA
=CR=
Sirus Wide:
SCRA
IND (Traders)
KoF (Traders)
RepEX (Traders)
Angles Organization
TAZ
Various Bounty Hunters
Phantoms

its very distinct and varied in each place
Kusari is active latley
Rheinland is filled with Traders and such
Bretonia is getting there with the UoG/=CR= war.

I say we first fix Bretonia above all else

Then why are the HF in the New York system? There was two of them a couple days ago killing a trader or two.

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