Insufficient of civilian vessels

[dodike]

We have the mid-sze house transports, which are more or less "Civilian". A lot of people like to point to those when new medium transports are requested.

But since there's a cargo restriction on a lot of IDs for 3.5K/3.6K, most people end up with Fireflies or BWTs, anyway. People are gonna buy the biggest they can get. So let's give those people more options. We have multiple 5K transports for the sake of diversity, now let's make more transports at exactly 3.5K.

If all else fails, we could even rebalance the mid-size house transports (Mammoth, Behemoth, etc.) to be 3.5K.
As for fighters, we do have a decent number of open-use VHFs and bombers already. Some of them need new models, though (Wasupu, Raven's Talon, Virage). But it can't hurt to expand upon that.

Mammoth, Behemoth, Big Dragon and others smaller transports have some advantages over BWT/Firefly.
It's a trade off between cargo space and combat ability. I wouldn't like them becoming a copy of the BTW with a different model. I would take Behemoth or the Big Dragon over BWT any time even with the slightly less cargo capacity.

I wouldn't mind seeing a few new 3.5k transport added as long as they are build somewhere rather than being purely civilian without a manufacturer and no backround what so ever. The same goes for snubs.

[Veygaar]

It think there are plenty already... So many options available. But more would be cool sure;)

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[Benjamin]

I don't see enough eagles or adv. trains for my liking ;(

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[Tachyon]

Enough and needs a few, more alternatives to Eagle, Wasupu and Raven's Talon, please !

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[dodike]

Enough and needs a few, more alternatives to Eagle, Wasupu and Raven's Talon, please !

You can add Touketsu now too.

[Zynth]

We need "House Civilian" fighters.
LFs, HFs, VHFs and Bombers.

The Tiger Shark and Hayabusa are examples but Liberty and Bretonia could use some as well.

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[JayDee Kasane]

We need "House Civilian" fighters.
LFs, HFs, VHFs and Bombers.

The Tiger Shark and Hayabusa are examples but Liberty and Bretonia could use some as well.

I can agree on that one. So Corps will fly only on native ships, no Eagle spam anymore.
Make 1 LF, 1 HF and 1 VHF per house. maybe bomber even. exept Gallia, it dont more of them.
and make 2 more civil gunboats exept Ahoudori - one medium and one light
about trans: cant tell anything. I think they are enough

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[Ceoran]

I can agree on that one. So Corps will fly only on native ships, no Eagle spam anymore.

wat? :blink:

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[JayDee Kasane]

wat? :blink:

As I sayed: No Eagle spam. I just see Eagles most of time from Civilian ships. I already forget when I saw Renzu VHF, Wasupu or other Civilian ship more then once per day. only Egales. Egales... Egales..... :mellow:

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[Croft]

Something to replace the firefly would be grand just mind the rage you'll receive for even mentioning it. I believe there still a few imports that are for the axe, mostly JK ships I think.

A couple of possibilties from the wiki:

Moldy Crow HF - Jedi Knight Import
Not certain on this Raven's Talon VHF - Jedi Knight 2 Import
X-Shuttle as you've mentioned.
and the Firefly obviously.
Even the prison liner could do with a new coat of paint but thats my own opinion.

As for support it'll vary depending on what ship you go for, I don't know a thing about models or textures but if you want a write up I'll gladly help out.

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