Rules of Engagement

[Titus]

Well, about the bats/bots rule, i can say it isn`t that hard for a capship-player to restrain from using bats/bots. Fighters, as i know, CAN use them....Cap-ships using bats/bots would make fighters go bananas trying to take them down... :sleep: . I think every player should have in mind that capship = no bats/bots fighter = bats / bots and no more than 3 times respawn. If everyone would agree with this, and try NOT to hide under the "it`s too hard to remember / obey " it would make things A LOT easier.

[Jamez]

I completely agree with titus.

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Andrew Skye
Starflier thrill-seeker

Evangeline Knight
Seasoned fighter pilot

Shinji Takeda
Renzu Corp ex-COO

[Fellow Hoodlum]

So basically, there are no rules of engagement then. The bott/batts thing seems to be
only thing everybody almost agrees on
War to claim a system becomes a great big expensive, and pointless exercise with
those that dont have school, work, bed or whatever claiming they won because it
comes down to the last man being there wins. And how do you get to claim all those
systems in the first place?
The Moderators are not interested in setting rules for this, as rightly, a war is not in
the best interests of the forum or the server
Wolf is pissed enough now, so I think if we cant agree between ourselves with
carefully thought out suggestions, and implementations of some basic guidelines
its time to say, You can't claim anything.
As for the upper Omicrons, nobody is ever around. I've spent hours up there in the
gainful employ of the Outcasts and never seen a soul. Its normally where I go to
have a quiet time, clear space fighting. Everone else is in Delta.
So lets sort this out please.
War, great big expensive, pointless exercise. Where have I heard that before?

Hoodlum (No sig. Just me)

[marauder]

Honour is needed in most things, like not attacking someone (who's in a fighter) with a Capship. Unless you know your opponent isn't honourless (read that last as 'cheating-power-gaming-****' ) it's useless to even try and do a fair PvP match with them.



And honour could also be called common sense

[Nightfall]

Right on it, Marauder, Hoodlum and Titus, :yahoo:
that what was I was talking about, basic rules and/of common sense, let's bring balance to the Force (I watched Star Wars too many times, yes)

let's give our best to make some rules here, really. I've put a base of 3, since they appeared to be the hottest, pls add if u got something of a suggestion, Admins, pls, post what u got earlyer we give it a try again.

another thing in helping the limiting of deaths per player (though I don't like this measure, but it seems necessary), FLSHELL was active, I think Wolfpack was testing it or something, nvm, it has the posibility that dying cost you - say $500k or 1 mil, we'll see how much respawns will someone take in a battle, since it's so expensive anyway, a few mil give or take won't make much difference.

as I say, I don't like enforcement of rules, I believe in freedom and common sense, but I can go along with this if there's no other way.

another comes to mind - even worse - u die 3 times, u get banned from the server for 3 hrs (i think it can b done automatically, I know a server can kick u and ban for 30 mins)

I think one of these will solve the "deaths per player problem", after all, in real life u get only one chance :)

I will give more suggestions as they come to my mind

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If the stars should appear one night in a thousand years, how would men believe and adore and preserve for many generations the remembrance of the city of God? - from 'Nightfall' by I. Asimov
The Outcasts consider Siniestre Nube a sacred place for several reasons. Early explorers discovered a jumphole within the depths of the cloud that leads to a strange world of ringed stars and strange craft. All ships in the burrial ground are placed facing that hole to honor the Alien Spirits. - An Outcast rumor

[Dab]

I would like to clear up some stuff about people complaining about fighters with bots/bats. Throughout the fight everyone was angry that I was using bots/bats, annd if I had skill I wouldn't need them. But what is skill? Reflexes, stuational awareness (some of you probably know what that is), or using everything on hand in a fight. Now say a complete noob goes against an ace pilot. If the noob has unlimited bots/bats eventually he is going to win. Your skill is only as good as your ship/equipment.

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[Wolfpack98]

As far as this kick and ban thing for 3 hours afte 3 death thing...

Absolutely not.

That's an administrative NIGHTMARE for me, not to mention i have to keep a record of who I kick/ban.. No thank you. It ain't worth the effort.

Dab is partially correct regarding skill

however, Skill in ANY game is three things:

1) How well you know how to use the equipment NOT what you have mounted
2) how well you can fly the ship you're flying
and most importantly
3) How well you can keep your cool in a tight situation

So far.. boasting how many you kill is not skill. That's boasting. It's an ego trip. Something that doesn't constitute to skill... AT ALL.

As for enforcement of the rules.. The PvP rules are there for a reason. .They are *ALSO* the Rules of Engagement. 3 deaths, you're out of the battle. Capital ships cannot use SB/NB's (Spoken rule.. i don't think i saw it in the server rules yet).

Next battle.. I *WILL* be there. I see someone using SB/NB.. I will kick from the system back to their home system. Get it?

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[Nightfall]

ok, no kick and ban then, was just a suggestion

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If the stars should appear one night in a thousand years, how would men believe and adore and preserve for many generations the remembrance of the city of God? - from 'Nightfall' by I. Asimov
The Outcasts consider Siniestre Nube a sacred place for several reasons. Early explorers discovered a jumphole within the depths of the cloud that leads to a strange world of ringed stars and strange craft. All ships in the burrial ground are placed facing that hole to honor the Alien Spirits. - An Outcast rumor

[Dab]

Dab is partially correct regarding skill

however, Skill in ANY game is three things:

1) How well you know how to use the equipment NOT what you have mounted
2) how well you can fly the ship you're flying
and most importantly
3) How well you can keep your cool in a tight situation

So far.. boasting how many you kill is not skill.  That's boasting.  It's an ego trip.  Something that doesn't constitute to skill... AT ALL.

As for enforcement of the rules.. The PvP rules are there for a reason. .They are *ALSO* the Rules of Engagement.  3 deaths, you're out of the battle. Capital ships cannot use SB/NB's (Spoken rule.. i don't think i saw it in the server rules yet).

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Well for the skill thing that equipment thing i what I had meant, Im just not always good at trying to explain with writing.

And the kills thing I did as retaliation for what the SF guys were doing. They were making personal insults at me. Unfortunately I don't have screenshots as i was a little busy at the time...

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[Wolfpack98]

And the kills thing I did as retaliation for what the SF guys were doing. They were making personal insults at me. Unfortunately I don't have screenshots as i was a little busy at the time...

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boasting your ego in return for personal insults?

Not very wise, Dab. that's extremely poor taste. Probably why a lot of us don't like you.

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